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I think this project is great and I fully support it. However, it's only a list of books challenged by mostly christian conservatives dealing with race and gend

I think this project is great and I fully support it. However, it's only a list of books challenged by mostly christian conservatives dealing with race and gender. Left-leaning progressives challenge books ALL the time. This is bristling to hear, but it's true. Books that are deemed to contain racist or sexist words or images are challenged every year. Huckleberry Finn, Dr. Seuss books, books about Christopher Columbus. Go find the video of zealous high school students throwing out books they don't like in an attempt to "decolonize" the shelves. Go read about how librarians intentionally weed books they find offensive. [1] Sorry, but that is a book challenge whether you like it or not. Different people are offended by different things and they don't want you to see the books that piss them off. I don't like any book banning or book challenges, we also need to keep the problem in perspective. There are 100,000+ libraries and ~170 million library card holders in this country. The vast majority of these challenged are from coordinated groups like Moms For Liberty who just hand over huge lists all at once. Each of those get counted as a "challenge". I sharply disagree with Moms For Liberty but this threat seems largely exaggerated. [1] https://bookriot.com/weeding-racist-books-at-libraries/ https://bookriot.com/weeding-racist-books-at-libraries/

jeffbee 4y ago
Which of the books on the ALA's list of the 100-most-challenged books of the 2010s do you believe was probably challenged by "left-leaning" busybodies? https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/decade2019 https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbook...
- stolenmerch 4y ago
  I'd start with #2 on the list, Captain Underpants. It got banned in many libraries due to supposedly "racist" imagery. [1] [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-race-captain-underpants/captain-underpants-author-pulls-book-due-to-racist-imagery-apologizes-to-asian-readers-idUSKBN2BL2QM https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-race-captain-underpan...
  - jeffbee 4y ago
    Eh, that's not why Captain Underpants is banned, though. Captain Underpants is banned because of these reasons. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-captain-underpants-is-the-most-banned-book-in-america-2013-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/why-captain-underpants-is-th...
    - stolenmerch 4y ago
      Nope. It was removed from libraries and book stores because some people were offended by the images in the books. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56577725 https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56577725
      - jeffbee 4y ago
        Again that article is about The Adventures of Ook and Gluk: Kung-Fu Cavemen from the Future not Captain Underpants.
        stolenmerch 4y ago
        Ook and Gluk is a Captain Underpants book. Captain Underpants is a series and this is part of it and has the main characters from Captain Underpants. The series (not an individual title) is #2 on the list because there are challenges to the books because of words and images that offend some people. Sometimes those people are liberals - and no I'm not saying it's 50/50. However, when Dav Pilkey gets his book challenged for offending people he has to issue public apologies and donate all revenue to a charity. Not so for any other title on that list.
llanowarelves 4y ago
It's called Repressive Tolerance: good when they do it, bad when you do it.
- spicymaki 4y ago
  So you would rather support racist and sexist books than books about the LGBT written by people of color? I am not sure of your position.
  - llanowarelves 4y ago
    Nice strawman. Repressive Tolerance defined by Herbert Marcuse is tolerating or looking the other way when left-wing commits violence, banning, etc. But hyper-responding (repressing) right wingers doing even a fraction of the same as them. If you define the other side as oppressors before they label you oppressors, you are morally allowed to oppress them, in the name of "tolerance". Normal people would say it's wrong when anyone or "any side" does it.

jeffbee 4y ago

Which of the books on the ALA's list of the 100-most-challenged books of the 2010s do you believe was probably challenged by "left-leaning" busybodies? https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbooks/decade2019 https://www.ala.org/advocacy/bbooks/frequentlychallengedbook...

stolenmerch 4y ago
I'd start with #2 on the list, Captain Underpants. It got banned in many libraries due to supposedly "racist" imagery. [1] [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-race-captain-underpants/captain-underpants-author-pulls-book-due-to-racist-imagery-apologizes-to-asian-readers-idUSKBN2BL2QM https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-race-captain-underpan...
- jeffbee 4y ago
  Eh, that's not why Captain Underpants is banned, though. Captain Underpants is banned because of these reasons. https://www.businessinsider.com/why-captain-underpants-is-the-most-banned-book-in-america-2013-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/why-captain-underpants-is-th...
  - stolenmerch 4y ago
    Nope. It was removed from libraries and book stores because some people were offended by the images in the books. https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56577725 https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56577725
    - jeffbee 4y ago
      Again that article is about The Adventures of Ook and Gluk: Kung-Fu Cavemen from the Future not Captain Underpants.
      - stolenmerch 4y ago
        Ook and Gluk is a Captain Underpants book. Captain Underpants is a series and this is part of it and has the main characters from Captain Underpants. The series (not an individual title) is #2 on the list because there are challenges to the books because of words and images that offend some people. Sometimes those people are liberals - and no I'm not saying it's 50/50. However, when Dav Pilkey gets his book challenged for offending people he has to issue public apologies and donate all revenue to a charity. Not so for any other title on that list.

llanowarelves 4y ago

It's called Repressive Tolerance: good when they do it, bad when you do it.

spicymaki 4y ago
So you would rather support racist and sexist books than books about the LGBT written by people of color? I am not sure of your position.
- llanowarelves 4y ago
  Nice strawman. Repressive Tolerance defined by Herbert Marcuse is tolerating or looking the other way when left-wing commits violence, banning, etc. But hyper-responding (repressing) right wingers doing even a fraction of the same as them. If you define the other side as oppressors before they label you oppressors, you are morally allowed to oppress them, in the name of "tolerance". Normal people would say it's wrong when anyone or "any side" does it.