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After the last iOS update, Apple nagged the shit out of me to setup Apple Pay, for two days. No way to say ‘fuck off’ - only ‘remind me’. No obvious way to stop

by psyc 4y ago

After the last iOS update, Apple nagged the shit out of me to setup Apple Pay, for two days. No way to say ‘fuck off’ - only ‘remind me’. No obvious way to stop the nagging. Finally I gave them just the tip, and then pulled out before the money shot, and that seems to have shut them up for now.

cyral 4y ago
Apple Pay is legitimately useful though. You can use it to pay at physical businesses if you forget your wallet (double click and face ID to turn your phone into a "tap to pay" card basically). There are also lots of apps/sites that support it so you don't have to type in your card number or even your shipping info sometimes.
- CydeWeys 4y ago
  That you think it's useful isn't relevant; he doesn't wanna use it and yet nevertheless has continuously been nagged about it. That's not a good experience. Fwiw I don't use Apple Pay either. There's a lot of things I don't use, for various reasons, and "you should just give in and use it" isn't the right response.
- perryizgr8 4y ago
  Amazon prime is also very useful. I would say it's more useful for more people than Apple pay. But that doesn't excuse the bad behaviour.
HWR_14 4y ago
I have no idea what you're talking about. Apple asked me about Apple Pay a long time ago, I decided I didn't want it and I've never been bugged again.
wrboyce 4y ago
How is that even relevant? Your phone was trying to onboard you to a _free to use_ feature. If you can’t see the difference here, then I suspect there probably was a button labelled “fuck off” and you didn’t see that either. Honestly.
- joe_guy 4y ago
  Apple makes money off the interchange fee. It might be "free" to the end user, but the corporate motivation is the same as Prime's -- money. And please don't ad hominem attack people you're responding to.
  - wrboyce 4y ago
    Yeah you’re right, there was no need for the last bit. I’m still struggling to see the relevance though, trying to get me to buy things is very different from trying to get me to use a feature you profit from (in my opinion). You also have to bare in mind that HN represents the more technical users, plenty of people probably do need the popups to discover these features. Saying that, a “no thanks, don’t remind me again” button would be a nice inclusion - perhaps with a secondary confirmation.
    - tjoff 4y ago
      Feature you profit from? You feel you profit from facebook tracking as well? Regardless, these dark patterns are truly disgusting and how some can defend them so mindlessly just because they apparently found a use for a product is quite disturbing.
      - wrboyce 4y ago
        “You” in that context was the entity pushing the feature. I’m not sure what point you think you’re making about Facebook tracking tbh, but I don’t use Facebook so you’re asking the wrong person; to claim I am mindlessly defending dark patterns is nonsense.
        tjoff 4y ago
        You don't think amazon thinks prime is beneficial to you? Or that facebook doesn't think tracking is beneficial for their users?
        4y ago

by psyc 4y ago

cyral 4y ago

Apple Pay is legitimately useful though. You can use it to pay at physical businesses if you forget your wallet (double click and face ID to turn your phone into a "tap to pay" card basically). There are also lots of apps/sites that support it so you don't have to type in your card number or even your shipping info sometimes.

CydeWeys 4y ago
That you think it's useful isn't relevant; he doesn't wanna use it and yet nevertheless has continuously been nagged about it. That's not a good experience. Fwiw I don't use Apple Pay either. There's a lot of things I don't use, for various reasons, and "you should just give in and use it" isn't the right response.
perryizgr8 4y ago
Amazon prime is also very useful. I would say it's more useful for more people than Apple pay. But that doesn't excuse the bad behaviour.

HWR_14 4y ago

I have no idea what you're talking about. Apple asked me about Apple Pay a long time ago, I decided I didn't want it and I've never been bugged again.

wrboyce 4y ago

How is that even relevant? Your phone was trying to onboard you to a _free to use_ feature. If you can’t see the difference here, then I suspect there probably was a button labelled “fuck off” and you didn’t see that either. Honestly.

joe_guy 4y ago
Apple makes money off the interchange fee. It might be "free" to the end user, but the corporate motivation is the same as Prime's -- money. And please don't ad hominem attack people you're responding to.
- wrboyce 4y ago
  Yeah you’re right, there was no need for the last bit. I’m still struggling to see the relevance though, trying to get me to buy things is very different from trying to get me to use a feature you profit from (in my opinion). You also have to bare in mind that HN represents the more technical users, plenty of people probably do need the popups to discover these features. Saying that, a “no thanks, don’t remind me again” button would be a nice inclusion - perhaps with a secondary confirmation.
  - tjoff 4y ago
    Feature you profit from? You feel you profit from facebook tracking as well? Regardless, these dark patterns are truly disgusting and how some can defend them so mindlessly just because they apparently found a use for a product is quite disturbing.
    - wrboyce 4y ago
      “You” in that context was the entity pushing the feature. I’m not sure what point you think you’re making about Facebook tracking tbh, but I don’t use Facebook so you’re asking the wrong person; to claim I am mindlessly defending dark patterns is nonsense.
      - tjoff 4y ago
        You don't think amazon thinks prime is beneficial to you? Or that facebook doesn't think tracking is beneficial for their users?
        4y ago