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And maybe in Texas they will offer to loan books to Park Slope children the Park Slope progressives find objectionable.

by funstuff007 4y ago

eatonphil 4y ago
What banned books in the BPL do you recommend?
- cato_the_elder 4y ago
  I can't find "Practical Lock Picking" by Deviant Ollam [1] on their catalogue [2]. To be fair, it's not explicitly banned AFAIK, and it's a bit of a niche book (but it's famous among the respective hobbyists). Also, to their credit, I looked up a bunch of other must-not-be-named titles you usually don't find in public libraries, and they did have most of them. [1]: https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Lock-Picking-Physical-Penetration/dp/1597499897 https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Lock-Picking-Physical-Penet... [1]: https://www.bklynlibrary.org/search?search=practical+lock+picking https://www.bklynlibrary.org/search?search=practical+lock+pi...
Wowfunhappy 4y ago
> books the Park Slope progressives find objectionable Like? I can think of plenty, but not anything that would be outright banned from the New York library system.
qgin 4y ago
Eagerly awaiting a list of books Brooklyn teens are unable to access.
Adraghast 4y ago
I just checked the NYPL catalog and found The Turner Diaries, Camp of the Saints and Mein Kampf to be available. Just three examples, but I find it hard to imagine what else they’d refuse to carry if those are fine. Is there a particular book you have in mind that “Park Slope progressives” would find too objectionable for libraries to loan out?
- eatonphil 4y ago
  NYPL isn't BPL for what it's worth. :) NYPL only covers Manhattan, Staten Island and The Bronx. Brooklyn has Brooklyn Public Library and Queens has Queens Public Library. All separate systems that existed before NYC was united in 1898 and stayed separate afterwards.
- narrator 4y ago
  Can you check if they have The Transgender-Industrial Complex[1]? It's one of the few books Amazon refuses to sell. You can only get it from the publisher or Barnes and Nobles. [1]https://antelopehillpublishing.com/product/the-transgender-industrial-complex-by-scott-howard/ https://antelopehillpublishing.com/product/the-transgender-i...
  - dredmorbius 4y ago
    You can of course search for that yourself at Worldcat. DuckDuckGo !bang search !worldcat. Or https://worldcat.org/ https://worldcat.org/ There appear to be three listed copies worldwide. https://www.worldcat.org/title/transgender-industrial-complex/oclc/1240181031 https://www.worldcat.org/title/transgender-industrial-comple...
  - robonerd 4y ago
    I checked three libraries. The New York Public Library, the Free Library of Philadelphia, and the Seattle Public Library. None have it.
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clumpthump 4y ago
- cato_the_elder 4y ago
  > darn progressive > you're mad Ok, I think we should all keep cool around here. There are many examples of people who call themselves progressives "banning" books. In the sense of school boards removing books from the curriculum (which is part of what's happening in Texas), here's a recent example: [1]. Some go as far as literally burning books [2]. [1]: https://www.newsweek.com/schools-drop-kill-mockingbird-required-reading-list-1672563 https://www.newsweek.com/schools-drop-kill-mockingbird-requi... [2]: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/book-burning-at-ontario-francophone-schools-as-gesture-of-reconciliation-denounced https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/book-burning-at-ontario...
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    For context, here is the relevant information from that first link: "The Mukilteo School Board voted unanimously to remove the book from the required reading list on Monday evening, The Everett Herald reported. The board's move does not ban the book from being taught, and it remains on the district-approved novel list." Removing a book from a required reading list isn't even a little bit like banning it.
    - cato_the_elder 4y ago
      Right, and I don't think I misrepresented what they are doing: > In the sense of school boards removing books from the curriculum The word "banned" is used in many different senses, this sense is used a lot about part of what's happening in Texas. That's not the only thing they are doing though. I know about at least two school libraries, and one rural public library (Llano County) removing books from the shelves (some supposedly "temporarily"). There's so much propaganda around this that figuring out the exact extent of what's happening is beyond my patience.

And maybe in Texas they will offer to loan books to Park Slope children the Park Slope progressives find objectionable.

eatonphil 4y ago

What banned books in the BPL do you recommend?

cato_the_elder 4y ago
I can't find "Practical Lock Picking" by Deviant Ollam [1] on their catalogue [2]. To be fair, it's not explicitly banned AFAIK, and it's a bit of a niche book (but it's famous among the respective hobbyists). Also, to their credit, I looked up a bunch of other must-not-be-named titles you usually don't find in public libraries, and they did have most of them. [1]: https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Lock-Picking-Physical-Penetration/dp/1597499897 https://www.amazon.com/Practical-Lock-Picking-Physical-Penet... [1]: https://www.bklynlibrary.org/search?search=practical+lock+picking https://www.bklynlibrary.org/search?search=practical+lock+pi...

Wowfunhappy 4y ago

> books the Park Slope progressives find objectionable Like? I can think of plenty, but not anything that would be outright banned from the New York library system.

qgin 4y ago

Eagerly awaiting a list of books Brooklyn teens are unable to access.

Adraghast 4y ago

I just checked the NYPL catalog and found The Turner Diaries, Camp of the Saints and Mein Kampf to be available. Just three examples, but I find it hard to imagine what else they’d refuse to carry if those are fine. Is there a particular book you have in mind that “Park Slope progressives” would find too objectionable for libraries to loan out?

eatonphil 4y ago
NYPL isn't BPL for what it's worth. :) NYPL only covers Manhattan, Staten Island and The Bronx. Brooklyn has Brooklyn Public Library and Queens has Queens Public Library. All separate systems that existed before NYC was united in 1898 and stayed separate afterwards.
narrator 4y ago
Can you check if they have The Transgender-Industrial Complex[1]? It's one of the few books Amazon refuses to sell. You can only get it from the publisher or Barnes and Nobles. [1]https://antelopehillpublishing.com/product/the-transgender-industrial-complex-by-scott-howard/ https://antelopehillpublishing.com/product/the-transgender-i...
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  You can of course search for that yourself at Worldcat. DuckDuckGo !bang search !worldcat. Or https://worldcat.org/ https://worldcat.org/ There appear to be three listed copies worldwide. https://www.worldcat.org/title/transgender-industrial-complex/oclc/1240181031 https://www.worldcat.org/title/transgender-industrial-comple...
- robonerd 4y ago
  I checked three libraries. The New York Public Library, the Free Library of Philadelphia, and the Seattle Public Library. None have it.
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clumpthump 4y ago

cato_the_elder 4y ago
> darn progressive > you're mad Ok, I think we should all keep cool around here. There are many examples of people who call themselves progressives "banning" books. In the sense of school boards removing books from the curriculum (which is part of what's happening in Texas), here's a recent example: [1]. Some go as far as literally burning books [2]. [1]: https://www.newsweek.com/schools-drop-kill-mockingbird-required-reading-list-1672563 https://www.newsweek.com/schools-drop-kill-mockingbird-requi... [2]: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/book-burning-at-ontario-francophone-schools-as-gesture-of-reconciliation-denounced https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/book-burning-at-ontario...
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  For context, here is the relevant information from that first link: "The Mukilteo School Board voted unanimously to remove the book from the required reading list on Monday evening, The Everett Herald reported. The board's move does not ban the book from being taught, and it remains on the district-approved novel list." Removing a book from a required reading list isn't even a little bit like banning it.
  - cato_the_elder 4y ago
    Right, and I don't think I misrepresented what they are doing: > In the sense of school boards removing books from the curriculum The word "banned" is used in many different senses, this sense is used a lot about part of what's happening in Texas. That's not the only thing they are doing though. I know about at least two school libraries, and one rural public library (Llano County) removing books from the shelves (some supposedly "temporarily"). There's so much propaganda around this that figuring out the exact extent of what's happening is beyond my patience.