> I was there with you until you said internet. Internet and phone plans in Germany are painful. Most of the major providers are still on VDSL - though they are

> I was there with you until you said internet. Internet and phone plans in Germany are painful. Most of the major providers are still on VDSL - though they are rolling out optical fiber. My current phone plan from O2 is 10 euros for 3.5 GB a month - that data volume is peanuts. I do not know if the US is any better, but I used to get 1 GB _per day_ in India. Yes, Germany is one of the worst in Europe (and nothing compared to India or the Philipines) but still head and shoulders better than the USA. In Oakland, I was paying $60 a month for a 50mbit connection, and another $40 a month for a phone plan that gave me 1.5GB a month with $10 per 100mb over that. And that was the super cheap plan. In Germany I pay 35 euros for a 100mbit house connection, and 6 euros for my sim.de phone plan with 8gb of data (I don't use much mobile data so I opted for the super cheap plan).