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There is a truth to what both of you are saying. Because from what I know Kamala is disliked among both Indian citizens and Inner-city black communities.
by screye 5y ago
There is a truth to what both of you are saying. Because from what I know Kamala is disliked among both Indian citizens and Inner-city black communities.
- deanCommie 5y ago
- csande17 5y ago> Ask yourself why you do this for Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton and no other politicians. ...Because there are sitting members of Congress with the names "Donald", "Joe", and "Harris", and a former president with the name "Clinton"? Ask yourself why people call George W. Bush "Dubya".
- tsimionescu 5y agoTo the extent that this is true, it is not because they are women, but because they have uncommon names, at least uncommon among American public figures. If I say "Kamala is unpopular among inner-city communities", you're likely to know who I'm talking about. If I say the same about "Joe" you're much more likely to be confused. Additionally, people often say "Trump", "Obama", "Biden". Saying "Clinton" is somewhat ambiguous (Hillary or Bill?). "Harris" could work, but it is definitely a more common name than Kamala. Additionally there are other women in power who do get referred by their full names. People don't talk about "Marjorie", they use "Marjorie Taylor-Green". They don't talk about Ruth (Bader-Ginsburg) or Diane (Feinstein) or Janet (Yellen) or Margaret (Thatcher).
- rayiner 5y agoBernie, Mitt, Jeb, W., Bill.
- thatguy0900 5y agoIf this is supposed to be a rebuttal bill is the only name I have met in real life here. The rest are pretty regional or uncommon.
- rayiner 5y agoNo, I'm agreeing with you. I don't know if people just don't remember the 1990s, but calling Bill Clinton "Bill" was a whole thing.
- powersnail 5y agoThat’s interesting. I just did this introspection, and I find that I say: Trump, Obama, Biden, Hilary Clinton, Kamala Harris (full name). But interestingly, I call Jimmy Carter the full name, too. Can’t bring myself to use just “Carter”. Though, why does the US culture so insist on taking the husband’s family name? It kinda feels like “Hilary” is the actual name of the person, and Clinton is imposed.
- School-Cotton 5y ago> why does the US culture so insist on taking the husband’s family name? It doesn't really anymore. But it did when the Clintons got married several decades ago.
- stolsvik 5y agoWatch the series about her; She didn't want to, but did in the end for her husband’s political ambitions which was hampered by having such a progressive woman as wife..!
- unknown_apostle 5y agoPls, tell us the answer.
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- bigmealbigmeal 5y agoBernie Sanders is an immediate and obvious counterexample to your assertion that people only do this for Kamala Harris and Hillary Clinton. There's also Jeb Bush, Pete Buttigieg, Marco Rubio, and many others. The exclusion of these fairly obvious counterexamples suggests that you are engaging in a form of confirmation bias. There is reason to believe that people are sexist toward female politicians, but the first-name basis of Kamala and Hillary is not a strong piece of evidence, given that we do that for the aforementioned male politicians (and don't do it for a lot of other female politicians, such as Elizabeth Warren, Sarah Palin and AOC)
- HWR_14 5y agoHillary campaigned as Hillary (her slogan was "Hillary for America") as did Jeb, W., Pete, Bernie and others. Gilibrand and Warren campaigned with their last names. It has to do with how candidates choose to brand themselves.