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A lot of posters here aren't interested in discussing the actual data. They're personally offended, and responding off of that.

nitrogen 5y ago
A lot of posters here aren't interested in discussing the actual data. They're personally offended, and responding off of that. The perfect summary of much of modern political discourse.
hunterb123 5y ago
Go ahead and source the data and we'll discuss it.
- TulliusCicero 5y ago
  That rural areas are more conservative, less educated, poorer, and more religious on average, etc. is well known. I can provide the data if this is an earnest request, but I'm guessing you're already aware of these things, so I'm not sure what you're getting at here. If someone is arguing against a generally well understood fact -- like, saying that North Korea is richer than the US -- it's on them to support it. They're not doing that here, because the facts aren't on their side.
  - hunterb123 5y ago
    > aren't interested in discussing the actual data. > I can provide the data if this is an earnest request It is, please do so we can discuss the actual data as you've said.
    - pigscantfly 5y ago
      I live in a rural area and grew up working a beef ranch in the Poconos, and all of these claims (less educated, lower income, more conservative, more religious) sound obviously true to me, but I looked up the data out of curiosity. Here is the USDA Economic Research Service on rural vs. urban educational attainment and median income; rural areas indeed are less educated and lower income[1]. This Pew Research study shows that rural areas are more conservative than urban areas across a wide range of political issues[2]. Data on religion was slightly harder to find, but this Gallup poll shows rural areas in the US are more religious than urban areas[3]. If any of these results are surprising, I'd guess that you may not have much experience of urban areas as a comparison. To be clear, I still prefer living in a rural area, but I recognize that there are pros, cons, and individual differences. 1. https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/employment-education/rural-education/ https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/emp... 2. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/urban-suburban-and-rural-residents-views-on-key-social-and-political-issues/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/urban-s... 3. https://news.gallup.com/poll/7960/age-religiosity-rural-america.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/7960/age-religiosity-rural-amer...

nitrogen 5y ago

A lot of posters here aren't interested in discussing the actual data. They're personally offended, and responding off of that. The perfect summary of much of modern political discourse.

hunterb123 5y ago

Go ahead and source the data and we'll discuss it.

TulliusCicero 5y ago
That rural areas are more conservative, less educated, poorer, and more religious on average, etc. is well known. I can provide the data if this is an earnest request, but I'm guessing you're already aware of these things, so I'm not sure what you're getting at here. If someone is arguing against a generally well understood fact -- like, saying that North Korea is richer than the US -- it's on them to support it. They're not doing that here, because the facts aren't on their side.
- hunterb123 5y ago
  > aren't interested in discussing the actual data. > I can provide the data if this is an earnest request It is, please do so we can discuss the actual data as you've said.
  - pigscantfly 5y ago
    I live in a rural area and grew up working a beef ranch in the Poconos, and all of these claims (less educated, lower income, more conservative, more religious) sound obviously true to me, but I looked up the data out of curiosity. Here is the USDA Economic Research Service on rural vs. urban educational attainment and median income; rural areas indeed are less educated and lower income[1]. This Pew Research study shows that rural areas are more conservative than urban areas across a wide range of political issues[2]. Data on religion was slightly harder to find, but this Gallup poll shows rural areas in the US are more religious than urban areas[3]. If any of these results are surprising, I'd guess that you may not have much experience of urban areas as a comparison. To be clear, I still prefer living in a rural area, but I recognize that there are pros, cons, and individual differences. 1. https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/employment-education/rural-education/ https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/rural-economy-population/emp... 2. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/urban-suburban-and-rural-residents-views-on-key-social-and-political-issues/ https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2018/05/22/urban-s... 3. https://news.gallup.com/poll/7960/age-religiosity-rural-america.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/7960/age-religiosity-rural-amer...