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I completely agree. I was only lightly using Netflix so when they last raised prices it was the push I needed to actually cancel. The recent content they've rol

I completely agree. I was only lightly using Netflix so when they last raised prices it was the push I needed to actually cancel. The recent content they've rolled out doesn't justify the heftier price tag compared to competitors. I love the UX of Netflix, but content rules and they're losing that battle. I don't even want to try new shows because of their reputation for cancelling things unceremoniously.

stingraycharles 4y ago
> I don't even want to try new shows because of their reputation for cancelling things unceremoniously Ah, so I’m not alone in this! Nowadays, I typically only consider shows that have at least a few seasons, I will never ever try one with just one season. The chances of them killing it off are just too high, and that would ruin it completely for me. I like to binge watch, I can’t enjoy that when they keep killing off shows. It feels like a restaurant with only starters.
- Silhouette 4y ago
  It's an unfortunate self-fulfilling prophecy of the modern data-driven mindset. Sometimes the very act of collecting and acting on that data materially affects the data itself by creating perverse incentives. The two parent posters are far from alone in my experience. Lots of people are getting turned off by the variable quality and uncertain future of the home-made productions, which means lots of people are holding off starting to watch a show until it's somewhat established and had some positive reviews. If your management strategy is to measure early engagement with your own shows and viciously kill off anything that doesn't make the cut, and if your viewers know this, then you have defeated yourself no matter how good the show is or how popular it would naturally have become. A few years ago there was almost a trend for shows that weren't getting the numbers to get wrapped up with some sort of mini-series or TV movie so at least there was a chance for the production team to finish telling their story and give some closure for the fans (who might be fiercely loyal in sentiment even if too few in number to sustain the show). It's a little ironic Netflix would probably have been in a better position than anyone to adopt this kind of strategy and establish a reputation for being trustworthy and loyal to fans. Now it has the opposite reputation and we're openly speculating about whether it will ever recover.
  - Spooky23 4y ago
    It’s classic modern fuckery where analysts focus on data without understanding the information it contains. I sold my Netflix a few years ago when they started talking about how they are an attention sink vs an entertainment company. A/B tests and manipulative apps have a hard time accounting for external competition. The CEO’s reaction confirmed the cluelessness - pulling some bullshit non-plan about ads out of his ass is like ripping out the IV. If I was on the fence about Netflix, having the company accuse me of being a thief for allowing my family to use it and announcing ads will certainly get me off the fence.
- WiseWeasel 4y ago
  Tapas 4 life!
- danudey 4y ago
  It feels like a restaurant where the chef loves creating new dishes and has ADHD and rearranges the menu every time you go. Oh, the prosciutto eggs benny? Yeah, we don't do that anymore, but I can get you a tofu scramble! I'm rapidly running out of things on Netflix I actually want to see but haven't gotten around to. Once I run out, I'm not sure why I would keep the service around.
cmckn 4y ago
I think many single-season Netflix shows would have been movies 15 years ago. But many types of films just don't get made anymore, and many directors and performers would rather work on series. I’d still watch a show with one season, just like I’d watch a film without a sequel. I don’t tend to watch Netflix shows because they just aren’t that good.
- edgyquant 4y ago
  I prefer the long form, it gives more time to flesh out the world and characters, but it has to be done right there shouldn’t be a minimum episode count on a streaming services. If you only have 6 episodes worth of story please don’t add 6 episodes worth of filler so you have 12.
- Silhouette 4y ago
  I've watched some great shows that were one-season-and-done. Unfortunately in the Netflix era you might instead instead get half-and-dropped or one-and-unresolved-cliffhanger. A lot of us find those endings very disappointing and so don't engage with new shows at all even if they look like we might enjoy them. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me seven times since the start of COVID binge-watching...
- toofy 4y ago
  i agree, as long as it has a clear finale. cancelling series which were meant to have more seasons is what troubles me. I absolutely agree where i’d rather watch an entire season than a movie, tho. i really enjoy the depth that can be exlores from doing an entire season. but like i said above, if a show requires further seasons to finish the story, it’s very frustrating when it’s canceled. to me it feels like reading a third of a novel and having it yanked away.
- aliswe 4y ago
  > I think many single-season Netflix shows would have been movies 15 years ago. There would be one big change there I believe, in a movie they make sure to kill off arcs terminally pretty often, in series they make sure not to do that in order to be able to spin on it perpetually if demand be.
ss108 4y ago
Cancelling and putting on pause for no reason, such as Mindhunter.

stingraycharles 4y ago

> I don't even want to try new shows because of their reputation for cancelling things unceremoniously Ah, so I’m not alone in this! Nowadays, I typically only consider shows that have at least a few seasons, I will never ever try one with just one season. The chances of them killing it off are just too high, and that would ruin it completely for me. I like to binge watch, I can’t enjoy that when they keep killing off shows. It feels like a restaurant with only starters.

Silhouette 4y ago
It's an unfortunate self-fulfilling prophecy of the modern data-driven mindset. Sometimes the very act of collecting and acting on that data materially affects the data itself by creating perverse incentives. The two parent posters are far from alone in my experience. Lots of people are getting turned off by the variable quality and uncertain future of the home-made productions, which means lots of people are holding off starting to watch a show until it's somewhat established and had some positive reviews. If your management strategy is to measure early engagement with your own shows and viciously kill off anything that doesn't make the cut, and if your viewers know this, then you have defeated yourself no matter how good the show is or how popular it would naturally have become. A few years ago there was almost a trend for shows that weren't getting the numbers to get wrapped up with some sort of mini-series or TV movie so at least there was a chance for the production team to finish telling their story and give some closure for the fans (who might be fiercely loyal in sentiment even if too few in number to sustain the show). It's a little ironic Netflix would probably have been in a better position than anyone to adopt this kind of strategy and establish a reputation for being trustworthy and loyal to fans. Now it has the opposite reputation and we're openly speculating about whether it will ever recover.
- Spooky23 4y ago
  It’s classic modern fuckery where analysts focus on data without understanding the information it contains. I sold my Netflix a few years ago when they started talking about how they are an attention sink vs an entertainment company. A/B tests and manipulative apps have a hard time accounting for external competition. The CEO’s reaction confirmed the cluelessness - pulling some bullshit non-plan about ads out of his ass is like ripping out the IV. If I was on the fence about Netflix, having the company accuse me of being a thief for allowing my family to use it and announcing ads will certainly get me off the fence.
WiseWeasel 4y ago
Tapas 4 life!
danudey 4y ago
It feels like a restaurant where the chef loves creating new dishes and has ADHD and rearranges the menu every time you go. Oh, the prosciutto eggs benny? Yeah, we don't do that anymore, but I can get you a tofu scramble! I'm rapidly running out of things on Netflix I actually want to see but haven't gotten around to. Once I run out, I'm not sure why I would keep the service around.

cmckn 4y ago

I think many single-season Netflix shows would have been movies 15 years ago. But many types of films just don't get made anymore, and many directors and performers would rather work on series. I’d still watch a show with one season, just like I’d watch a film without a sequel. I don’t tend to watch Netflix shows because they just aren’t that good.

edgyquant 4y ago
I prefer the long form, it gives more time to flesh out the world and characters, but it has to be done right there shouldn’t be a minimum episode count on a streaming services. If you only have 6 episodes worth of story please don’t add 6 episodes worth of filler so you have 12.
Silhouette 4y ago
I've watched some great shows that were one-season-and-done. Unfortunately in the Netflix era you might instead instead get half-and-dropped or one-and-unresolved-cliffhanger. A lot of us find those endings very disappointing and so don't engage with new shows at all even if they look like we might enjoy them. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me seven times since the start of COVID binge-watching...
toofy 4y ago
i agree, as long as it has a clear finale. cancelling series which were meant to have more seasons is what troubles me. I absolutely agree where i’d rather watch an entire season than a movie, tho. i really enjoy the depth that can be exlores from doing an entire season. but like i said above, if a show requires further seasons to finish the story, it’s very frustrating when it’s canceled. to me it feels like reading a third of a novel and having it yanked away.
aliswe 4y ago
> I think many single-season Netflix shows would have been movies 15 years ago. There would be one big change there I believe, in a movie they make sure to kill off arcs terminally pretty often, in series they make sure not to do that in order to be able to spin on it perpetually if demand be.

ss108 4y ago

Cancelling and putting on pause for no reason, such as Mindhunter.