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As long as you're fine with the vast majority of people not ever seeing the hidden carousel items, it's perfectly serviceable as an interface pattern. There are

As long as you're fine with the vast majority of people not ever seeing the hidden carousel items, it's perfectly serviceable as an interface pattern. There are contexts where it's quite useful.

vmception 4y ago
Agreed, most of my websites are essentially just pitch decks to check the box of some audience's quest for determining if they should take my seriously. And so since its not optimizing for engagement, it is purely aesthetic, but aesthetic in the sense that it can have poor features that other serious companies use. A Fortune 500 website would have notoriously shitty aspects, do that if you want audiences that think that is clout. Fortunately my non-North American and younger North American audiences don't even care about websites. All commerce is driven straight through chat apps. And do I really want the clientele that thinks I need a website that they will accidentally find on a search engine, or by accidentally typing a .com in the address bar by habit? no. I've considered make my fonts smaller and thinner hoping they think thats a problem and bounce, I like the aesthetics of thinner fonts but its more like thinking maybe I can just ignore the issue from the people who are less likely to be able to read it since they're not the target audience anyway. I'm pretty much never doing things for SEO. Everyone's just going to click through from a chat app, or a twitter feed because someone else was talking about it. Since a lot of people swear by other e-commerce books that never made them a dime and have opposite advice, maybe I should release my own.
- Zak 4y ago
  > All commerce is driven straight through chat apps. This sounds either very labor-intensive if you use humans, or like a bad customer experience if you use bots.
  - vmception 4y ago
    That doesn't really represent the experience of how rich the experience in chat apps are. People get their information from heavily populated channels (one way communication chat rooms run by personalities people like, defacto "influencers"), which are forwarded to people that didn't read it. Permeating many communities and private group chats in minutes. If it is labor intensive, its only that way for a week or two as you coordinate all of the posts with many channels.
    - Zak 4y ago
      When I read your earlier comment talking about "commerce", I was thinking of ordering a product, which strikes me as a bad fit for chat app unless it's very low volume (and a good fit for a website). Your bio talks about fintech and digital assets, so perhaps I was imagining the wrong scenarios.
      - vmception 4y ago
        one-off "drops" are high volume and are also completed through apps these days, even instagram's marketplace is conducive to this, an immediate convenience that doesn't wait for people to think "ok thats normal", the commerce just happens. with apple pay integration and similar rails you really don't need a site - even for non-crypto users.

As long as you're fine with the vast majority of people not ever seeing the hidden carousel items, it's perfectly serviceable as an interface pattern. There are contexts where it's quite useful.

vmception 4y ago

Agreed, most of my websites are essentially just pitch decks to check the box of some audience's quest for determining if they should take my seriously. And so since its not optimizing for engagement, it is purely aesthetic, but aesthetic in the sense that it can have poor features that other serious companies use. A Fortune 500 website would have notoriously shitty aspects, do that if you want audiences that think that is clout. Fortunately my non-North American and younger North American audiences don't even care about websites. All commerce is driven straight through chat apps. And do I really want the clientele that thinks I need a website that they will accidentally find on a search engine, or by accidentally typing a .com in the address bar by habit? no. I've considered make my fonts smaller and thinner hoping they think thats a problem and bounce, I like the aesthetics of thinner fonts but its more like thinking maybe I can just ignore the issue from the people who are less likely to be able to read it since they're not the target audience anyway. I'm pretty much never doing things for SEO. Everyone's just going to click through from a chat app, or a twitter feed because someone else was talking about it. Since a lot of people swear by other e-commerce books that never made them a dime and have opposite advice, maybe I should release my own.

Zak 4y ago
> All commerce is driven straight through chat apps. This sounds either very labor-intensive if you use humans, or like a bad customer experience if you use bots.
- vmception 4y ago
  That doesn't really represent the experience of how rich the experience in chat apps are. People get their information from heavily populated channels (one way communication chat rooms run by personalities people like, defacto "influencers"), which are forwarded to people that didn't read it. Permeating many communities and private group chats in minutes. If it is labor intensive, its only that way for a week or two as you coordinate all of the posts with many channels.
  - Zak 4y ago
    When I read your earlier comment talking about "commerce", I was thinking of ordering a product, which strikes me as a bad fit for chat app unless it's very low volume (and a good fit for a website). Your bio talks about fintech and digital assets, so perhaps I was imagining the wrong scenarios.
    - vmception 4y ago
      one-off "drops" are high volume and are also completed through apps these days, even instagram's marketplace is conducive to this, an immediate convenience that doesn't wait for people to think "ok thats normal", the commerce just happens. with apple pay integration and similar rails you really don't need a site - even for non-crypto users.