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As a baseline it's supposed to avoid running into objects. It doesn't seem to be able to do this relatively simple task very well even at 5mph, which is why you

As a baseline it's supposed to avoid running into objects. It doesn't seem to be able to do this relatively simple task very well even at 5mph, which is why you need to watch it like a hawk. Basically nobody sane ever uses it at all after they've tested it a few times.

bombcar 5y ago
It runs into the tail of the plane, which is sticking out over the place it wants to travel, and pretty high up (it appears to collide with the top of the windshield). It's understandable why it may not be designed to check that situation, as it is not one you'd normally find in a parking lot (unless maybe a parking lot full of semi trailers).
- williamscales 5y ago
  I guess they assume they don’t have to check for high objects because if it’s in a height restricted parking garage when smart summon is activated, then by definition it must have fit past any restrictions originally on the way in.
- PraetorianGourd 5y ago
  It is absolutely not understandable or excusable! This is a company who claims that they have self-driving technology at or above the level of human safety. Driving into something that your car can't fit under isn't an edge case. It's just baseline, minimum viable product. Tesla is going to do more harm to the prospects of self-driving cars than anyone. Their "test in production" attitude is going to not only cost (more) lives but also force the government to strictly regulate the tech delaying the other companies that are acting responsibly.
- dahdum 5y ago
  > It's understandable why it may not be designed to check that situation, as it is not one you'd normally find in a parking lot (unless maybe a parking lot full of semi trailers). Sounds pretty similar to the accidents involving trailers, where the top of the cars were sheared off because it didn't detect anything there. > Neither Brown nor the car braked for a tractor-trailer, which had turned left in front of the Tesla and was crossing its path. Brown’s Tesla also went beneath the trailer and its roof was sheared off. After that crash Tesla CEO Elon Musk said the company made changes in its system so radar would play more of a role in detecting objects. They got rid of radar, so I wonder if that's made it again more difficult to detect these scenarios.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
  Also because accidents involving slow moving cars crashing into above ground objects tend to result in property damage not injuries. It seems like nothing irreplaceable (like human life or health) was lost or even at risk in this case.

bombcar 5y ago

It runs into the tail of the plane, which is sticking out over the place it wants to travel, and pretty high up (it appears to collide with the top of the windshield). It's understandable why it may not be designed to check that situation, as it is not one you'd normally find in a parking lot (unless maybe a parking lot full of semi trailers).

williamscales 5y ago
I guess they assume they don’t have to check for high objects because if it’s in a height restricted parking garage when smart summon is activated, then by definition it must have fit past any restrictions originally on the way in.
PraetorianGourd 5y ago
It is absolutely not understandable or excusable! This is a company who claims that they have self-driving technology at or above the level of human safety. Driving into something that your car can't fit under isn't an edge case. It's just baseline, minimum viable product. Tesla is going to do more harm to the prospects of self-driving cars than anyone. Their "test in production" attitude is going to not only cost (more) lives but also force the government to strictly regulate the tech delaying the other companies that are acting responsibly.
dahdum 5y ago
> It's understandable why it may not be designed to check that situation, as it is not one you'd normally find in a parking lot (unless maybe a parking lot full of semi trailers). Sounds pretty similar to the accidents involving trailers, where the top of the cars were sheared off because it didn't detect anything there. > Neither Brown nor the car braked for a tractor-trailer, which had turned left in front of the Tesla and was crossing its path. Brown’s Tesla also went beneath the trailer and its roof was sheared off. After that crash Tesla CEO Elon Musk said the company made changes in its system so radar would play more of a role in detecting objects. They got rid of radar, so I wonder if that's made it again more difficult to detect these scenarios.
tgsovlerkhgsel 5y ago
Also because accidents involving slow moving cars crashing into above ground objects tend to result in property damage not injuries. It seems like nothing irreplaceable (like human life or health) was lost or even at risk in this case.