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Without knowing much of how Indian law is spelled out, this would be very clearly permitted language in every other liberal democracy. The narrow exceptions for
by tootie 5y ago
Without knowing much of how Indian law is spelled out, this would be very clearly permitted language in every other liberal democracy. The narrow exceptions for "fighting words" need to be very explicit physical threats. Insults, even lies, are well within the realm of protected speech. Protection against causing offense is exactly what free speech rules are written for. Americans say absolutely awful things about our presidents whether or not they're true and none have ever been punished for expressing an opinion no matter how odious.
Modi and the BJP may not literally worship an assassin, but they absolutely do support violent confrontation against Muslims. The kind of thing that is not only offensive and "fighting words" but a very real existential threat against a minority of Indian citizens. Yet they don't receive punishment because they have the protection of the government. It makes it seem very obvious that this prosecution is just government oppression.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/world/asia/india-hate-speech-muslims.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/world/asia/india-hate-spe...
- leephillips 5y ago“every other liberal democracy” In every liberal democracy. India is not one of those. They have elections, but those are necessary, not sufficient conditions for a meaningful state of democracy to exist.
- tootie 5y agoSure, it's been mired in the "flawed democracy" category for a long time. I'm explicitly not commenting on the actual legal justification of this action because I don't know anything about how their law is written. I think the point of this article is very much to grade India on an absolute international scale of behavior. They fancy themselves as the "world's largest democracy" and things like this put a huge asterisk on their use of that kind of title. Permitting dissent would be a big signal that they're still committed to being a part of the liberal order, but they went the other direction. Same with their tepid reaction to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
- leephillips 5y agoThe US is in that category too, for what it’s worth—at least on the list compiled by the Economist. https://thefulcrum.us/big-picture/Leveraging-big-ideas/flawed-democracy https://thefulcrum.us/big-picture/Leveraging-big-ideas/flawe...