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Except in virtually all of this woke programming white male christians are deliberately and exclusively portrayed negatively, if their characters aren't outrigh

Except in virtually all of this woke programming white male christians are deliberately and exclusively portrayed negatively, if their characters aren't outright replace with race and gender swaps. It's petty revenge racism.

otterley 4y ago
If you're saying that you cannot find a single example where a white male is portrayed non-negatively, you need to look harder. Longmire on Netflix is just one example. Jack Reacher and Bosch on Prime Video are others. That said, there's plenty of room to make fun of white male Christians, just like there's plenty of room to make fun of everyone else. It's not like there's a shortage of hypocrisy and foibles out there.
tomnipotent 4y ago
But white Christian's negatively portraying the rest of the world for the better part of a century is not political? Dr. Fu Manchu, Breakfast at Tiffany's? Why is it only political when another group is creating the content?
- twofornone 4y ago
  >But white Christian's negatively portraying the rest of the world for the better part of a century is not political? Dr. Fu Manchu, Breakfast at Tiffany's This is dishonest. Minorities were also portrayed positively in legacy media, and villains were also frequently portrayed by white males. >Why is it only political when another group is creating the content In the past studios were creating content relevant to a predominantly (90%+) white audience. They were creating content which was largely in line with their target demographic culture. This recent media instead is creating content to disrupt what it's owners and managers see as a "racist" culture. That's what makes it political. It's less about money and more about deliberately changing culture in a hypocritical manner - fighting alleged racism with explicit racism. Breakfast at tiffanies was not about punching down on asians, but black feminist vikings is about sending a politicized message.
  - otterley 4y ago
    > Breakfast at tiffanies was not about punching down on asians You seem pretty sure about that for a person who wasn’t involved in its production. Even assuming, arguendo, that it wasn’t, would you contend that it would be appropriate to have such a character in a modern movie? Have you surveyed Asian people about how they feel about the Fu Manchu character?
  - tomnipotent 4y ago
    > creating content relevant to a predominantly (90%+) white audience Sure, maybe a century ago in the 1920s but it's been several decades since international revenues eclipsed domestic. > That's what makes it political. Other people having their voices heard is what makes it political? Or that you don't like what those voices have to say?
    - twofornone 4y ago
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      - otterley 4y ago
        > D&I is not discrimination against straight white men. Well, it isn't. As a straight white man myself, I don't feel like I'm particularly suffering from discrimination. Am I picked first for everything now, like maybe before I would have? Maybe not. Does it adversely impact my life? Not really. It's OK to let others to have the first sip from the fountain once in awhile, and you can help lift up historically-persecuted people without it necessarily being a loss for you. Attitude goes a long way in helping yourself be at peace with it. If you're a straight white man and you're feeling seriously oppressed by D&I, I'd like to hear from you personally and understand your situation better. Anyway, this is pretty far afield from the discussion, which is really about specifically how media is harming people and children in particular.
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otterley 4y ago

If you're saying that you cannot find a single example where a white male is portrayed non-negatively, you need to look harder. Longmire on Netflix is just one example. Jack Reacher and Bosch on Prime Video are others. That said, there's plenty of room to make fun of white male Christians, just like there's plenty of room to make fun of everyone else. It's not like there's a shortage of hypocrisy and foibles out there.

tomnipotent 4y ago

But white Christian's negatively portraying the rest of the world for the better part of a century is not political? Dr. Fu Manchu, Breakfast at Tiffany's? Why is it only political when another group is creating the content?

twofornone 4y ago
>But white Christian's negatively portraying the rest of the world for the better part of a century is not political? Dr. Fu Manchu, Breakfast at Tiffany's This is dishonest. Minorities were also portrayed positively in legacy media, and villains were also frequently portrayed by white males. >Why is it only political when another group is creating the content In the past studios were creating content relevant to a predominantly (90%+) white audience. They were creating content which was largely in line with their target demographic culture. This recent media instead is creating content to disrupt what it's owners and managers see as a "racist" culture. That's what makes it political. It's less about money and more about deliberately changing culture in a hypocritical manner - fighting alleged racism with explicit racism. Breakfast at tiffanies was not about punching down on asians, but black feminist vikings is about sending a politicized message.
- otterley 4y ago
  > Breakfast at tiffanies was not about punching down on asians You seem pretty sure about that for a person who wasn’t involved in its production. Even assuming, arguendo, that it wasn’t, would you contend that it would be appropriate to have such a character in a modern movie? Have you surveyed Asian people about how they feel about the Fu Manchu character?
- tomnipotent 4y ago
  > creating content relevant to a predominantly (90%+) white audience Sure, maybe a century ago in the 1920s but it's been several decades since international revenues eclipsed domestic. > That's what makes it political. Other people having their voices heard is what makes it political? Or that you don't like what those voices have to say?
  - twofornone 4y ago
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    - otterley 4y ago
      > D&I is not discrimination against straight white men. Well, it isn't. As a straight white man myself, I don't feel like I'm particularly suffering from discrimination. Am I picked first for everything now, like maybe before I would have? Maybe not. Does it adversely impact my life? Not really. It's OK to let others to have the first sip from the fountain once in awhile, and you can help lift up historically-persecuted people without it necessarily being a loss for you. Attitude goes a long way in helping yourself be at peace with it. If you're a straight white man and you're feeling seriously oppressed by D&I, I'd like to hear from you personally and understand your situation better. Anyway, this is pretty far afield from the discussion, which is really about specifically how media is harming people and children in particular.
      - 4y ago