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I'll go into your mailbox and take your paycheck. I'll provide you with a new identical copy of it. I'll leave the previous existing copy intact, but in my poss

I'll go into your mailbox and take your paycheck. I'll provide you with a new identical copy of it. I'll leave the previous existing copy intact, but in my possession. Which one of us gets to deposit the money?

JamesBarney 4y ago
You're copying the check but stealing the money. The money and the check are not the same thing. If I copy your car key and use it to steal your car. I've copied the key but stolen your car.
- Stunting 4y ago
  You're copying the entertainment value provided and stealing the income that is related to that value.
  - hunter2_ 4y ago
    What about borrowing from public libraries? Buying a used legitimate disc at a garage sale? Are people who do this in the wrong?
    - Stunting 4y ago
      Finally! I agree with this. I think that physically purchased goods should be free from any sort of "DRM." and is not stealing. The difference is one party at a time, i.e. household, library patron, etc, can enjoy the entertainment service. When you pirate it, The original owner of the dvd retains the service value as well as providing the service to others without any value being transferred to the workforce/IP holders. That's the difference and I personally am all in for a mythical solution that but still allows complete freedom of ownership while also stopping people from digitally reproducing assets and dispensing them exponentially. I don't believe it will ever happen tho :/
  - pie_flavor 4y ago
    Theft is when you take something from someone. As in, what you have materially gained, they have materially lost. Copyright infringement is not theft, and must be treated differently, because what you gain, nobody has lost; the supply is infinite. If you accuse someone of stealing the income, but they haven't gotten any money out of it, how does that make sense? What you're describing is a missed opportunity for a sale; had someone 'stolen' nothing and simply passed the product by, you would still not have made that sale and nothing would have changed.

JamesBarney 4y ago

You're copying the check but stealing the money. The money and the check are not the same thing. If I copy your car key and use it to steal your car. I've copied the key but stolen your car.

Stunting 4y ago
You're copying the entertainment value provided and stealing the income that is related to that value.
- hunter2_ 4y ago
  What about borrowing from public libraries? Buying a used legitimate disc at a garage sale? Are people who do this in the wrong?
  - Stunting 4y ago
    Finally! I agree with this. I think that physically purchased goods should be free from any sort of "DRM." and is not stealing. The difference is one party at a time, i.e. household, library patron, etc, can enjoy the entertainment service. When you pirate it, The original owner of the dvd retains the service value as well as providing the service to others without any value being transferred to the workforce/IP holders. That's the difference and I personally am all in for a mythical solution that but still allows complete freedom of ownership while also stopping people from digitally reproducing assets and dispensing them exponentially. I don't believe it will ever happen tho :/
- pie_flavor 4y ago
  Theft is when you take something from someone. As in, what you have materially gained, they have materially lost. Copyright infringement is not theft, and must be treated differently, because what you gain, nobody has lost; the supply is infinite. If you accuse someone of stealing the income, but they haven't gotten any money out of it, how does that make sense? What you're describing is a missed opportunity for a sale; had someone 'stolen' nothing and simply passed the product by, you would still not have made that sale and nothing would have changed.