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As someone fairly familiar with the SJWs in a variety of FANGs, motherboard/mainboard doesn't even offend me any more. I kind of get it, even though it is lame

As someone fairly familiar with the SJWs in a variety of FANGs, motherboard/mainboard doesn't even offend me any more. I kind of get it, even though it is lame logic. I'm waiting until they start marking "Latino" as non-inclusive, and start forcing "Latinx".

dmitriid 5y ago
Meanwhile only 2% of Hispanics use the term Latinx, and 40% find it offensive: https://www.newsweek.com/just-2-percent-hispanics-use-term-latinx-40-percent-find-it-offensive-poll-1656412 https://www.newsweek.com/just-2-percent-hispanics-use-term-l...
filoleg 5y ago
I mentally cannot process "Latinx" to be pronounced as anything but "Lah-tinks". I am prepared to be fully shafted if I ever have to say that word outloud at work, because people seem to visibly cringe when they hear it pronounced this way.
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- xg15 5y ago
  Same here (though not a latino and not in the US, so I wasn't yet under any pressure to use it). The "-inx" suffix (when pronounced "inks") somehow makes the word sound more objectifying, sexist and even lewd than the original words.
  - filoleg 5y ago
    > though not a latino and not in the US, so I wasn't yet under any pressure to use it To be fair, I've literally never heard anyone try to pronounce "latinx" outloud. And I live in one of the most stereotypical liberal/left-wing cities in the US (Seattle). The usage of that term seems to be mostly confined to a vocal twitter/internet minority and written form (whether online or in promotional materials for certain things). Even here, this term is extremely fringe irl. And I don't think I've ever felt pressured to use it either, given I've never heard it in use (despite my friend group having a couple of people who are very left-leaning and are vocal about it). I guess tl;dr, don't mistake a fringe vocal minority on the internet for an accurate representation of what it is like to actually live in the US (even when it comes to certain most heavily stereotyped big cities).
    - nullc 5y ago
      > To be fair, I've literally never heard anyone try to pronounce "latinx" outloud, I guess you quit listening to NPR before they started using that one. It's ubiquitous now. What was it that made you quit? > Don't mistake fringe vocal minorities on the internet for an accurate representation of what it is like to actually live in the US. They I agree, though this particular example is not just internet fringe.
      - filoleg 5y ago
        Nothing made me quit NPR, i just prefer to consume it in the same form as most of my news-related stuff, in written form. Nothing against listening or watching it, i just find it easier to process things like that by reading. With that in mind, i guess i mostly meant "people you actually talk to or hear talking not in public news media" when i said that i dont ever hear it said outloud.
        nullc 5y ago
        Yeah, fair point. Unless your social circles include ultratwittered people and/or media personalities you'll likely never hear it in meatspace-- even living in the bay area.
        xg15 5y ago
        I mean, media has enormous influence. If a term is constantly present in every newscast, movie or newspaper around you, people will probably start using it at some point.
        filoleg 5y ago
        > people will probably start using it at some point. I am not disagreeing with you, and sure, your future prediction is not out of the realm of possibilities. I am just saying that I am yet to see it happen as of today. And I don't really care to be outraged about something that isn't a thing yet. It isn't global warming or some other thing that is difficult to reverse or has some life/death stakes. Language has been perpetually changing, and still is. Really fast, and really wildly. So making a trouble out of "this one word might become used in future in real life at some point, so you should worry about it now" is not something I am really into wasting energy on.
- causalmodels 5y ago
  I find “Latinx” to be so unbelievably stupid because the English “x” sound doesn’t exist in Spanish. Rather than using the gender neutral form “latine”, some moron decided we should start injecting Anglo idioms into the Spanish language
  - School-Cotton 5y ago
    Latinx is used almost exclusively by English speakers. One doesn't have to actually speak Spanish fluently to identify as Latino or Latinx in the US.
tempnow987 5y ago
LatinX is complicated. If (white person) corrects someone of hispanic origin that using the word latino is offensive and they should use latinx - I've gotten some pushback. It may be best to just let the folks who care about getting to Latinx hash it out themselves. I've started seeing folx as well instead of folks. Was curious about the offensiveness of folks?
- xg15 5y ago
  Wasn't the x originally a gender thing? As in "folks" is gender neutral while "folx" actively acknowledges non-heteronormative genders.
  - tempnow987 5y ago
    Thank you, very interesting. I'd always taken gender neutral to include non-heteronormative genders. But I started seeing things like folx - confusing because I hadn't understood the word to be gendered or only gender normative.
    - dane-pgp 5y ago
      > Thank you Don't you mean "Thanx"?
      - tempnow987 5y ago
        I think it's a bit unique to folkx because instead of using gendered language (hey guys) folks have moved to hey folks. So I've only seen it on things like that (gender neutral references to other people).
- skrbjc 5y ago
  Folx is just a way to signal that you are woke. Since they have pushed folks for everything and co-called "normies" are using it now, they need to go a step further to make sure you know they are part of the special group.
xg15 5y ago
> motherboard/mainboard doesn't even offend me any more. I kind of get it, even though it is lame logic. Same as "master branch"/"main branch". If there is an equivalent, less fancy and less controversial technical term, by all means let's use that instead. As long as you don't start with "childbearing person board" or "privileged branch" or whatever.
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goatlover 5y ago
I've only ever heard it from a few white people and NPR.

dmitriid 5y ago

Meanwhile only 2% of Hispanics use the term Latinx, and 40% find it offensive: https://www.newsweek.com/just-2-percent-hispanics-use-term-latinx-40-percent-find-it-offensive-poll-1656412 https://www.newsweek.com/just-2-percent-hispanics-use-term-l...

filoleg 5y ago

I mentally cannot process "Latinx" to be pronounced as anything but "Lah-tinks". I am prepared to be fully shafted if I ever have to say that word outloud at work, because people seem to visibly cringe when they hear it pronounced this way.

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xg15 5y ago
Same here (though not a latino and not in the US, so I wasn't yet under any pressure to use it). The "-inx" suffix (when pronounced "inks") somehow makes the word sound more objectifying, sexist and even lewd than the original words.
- filoleg 5y ago
  > though not a latino and not in the US, so I wasn't yet under any pressure to use it To be fair, I've literally never heard anyone try to pronounce "latinx" outloud. And I live in one of the most stereotypical liberal/left-wing cities in the US (Seattle). The usage of that term seems to be mostly confined to a vocal twitter/internet minority and written form (whether online or in promotional materials for certain things). Even here, this term is extremely fringe irl. And I don't think I've ever felt pressured to use it either, given I've never heard it in use (despite my friend group having a couple of people who are very left-leaning and are vocal about it). I guess tl;dr, don't mistake a fringe vocal minority on the internet for an accurate representation of what it is like to actually live in the US (even when it comes to certain most heavily stereotyped big cities).
  - nullc 5y ago
    > To be fair, I've literally never heard anyone try to pronounce "latinx" outloud, I guess you quit listening to NPR before they started using that one. It's ubiquitous now. What was it that made you quit? > Don't mistake fringe vocal minorities on the internet for an accurate representation of what it is like to actually live in the US. They I agree, though this particular example is not just internet fringe.
    - filoleg 5y ago
      Nothing made me quit NPR, i just prefer to consume it in the same form as most of my news-related stuff, in written form. Nothing against listening or watching it, i just find it easier to process things like that by reading. With that in mind, i guess i mostly meant "people you actually talk to or hear talking not in public news media" when i said that i dont ever hear it said outloud.
      - nullc 5y ago
        Yeah, fair point. Unless your social circles include ultratwittered people and/or media personalities you'll likely never hear it in meatspace-- even living in the bay area.
      - xg15 5y ago
        I mean, media has enormous influence. If a term is constantly present in every newscast, movie or newspaper around you, people will probably start using it at some point.
        filoleg 5y ago
        > people will probably start using it at some point. I am not disagreeing with you, and sure, your future prediction is not out of the realm of possibilities. I am just saying that I am yet to see it happen as of today. And I don't really care to be outraged about something that isn't a thing yet. It isn't global warming or some other thing that is difficult to reverse or has some life/death stakes. Language has been perpetually changing, and still is. Really fast, and really wildly. So making a trouble out of "this one word might become used in future in real life at some point, so you should worry about it now" is not something I am really into wasting energy on.
causalmodels 5y ago
I find “Latinx” to be so unbelievably stupid because the English “x” sound doesn’t exist in Spanish. Rather than using the gender neutral form “latine”, some moron decided we should start injecting Anglo idioms into the Spanish language
- School-Cotton 5y ago
  Latinx is used almost exclusively by English speakers. One doesn't have to actually speak Spanish fluently to identify as Latino or Latinx in the US.

tempnow987 5y ago

LatinX is complicated. If (white person) corrects someone of hispanic origin that using the word latino is offensive and they should use latinx - I've gotten some pushback. It may be best to just let the folks who care about getting to Latinx hash it out themselves. I've started seeing folx as well instead of folks. Was curious about the offensiveness of folks?

xg15 5y ago
Wasn't the x originally a gender thing? As in "folks" is gender neutral while "folx" actively acknowledges non-heteronormative genders.
- tempnow987 5y ago
  Thank you, very interesting. I'd always taken gender neutral to include non-heteronormative genders. But I started seeing things like folx - confusing because I hadn't understood the word to be gendered or only gender normative.
  - dane-pgp 5y ago
    > Thank you Don't you mean "Thanx"?
    - tempnow987 5y ago
      I think it's a bit unique to folkx because instead of using gendered language (hey guys) folks have moved to hey folks. So I've only seen it on things like that (gender neutral references to other people).
skrbjc 5y ago
Folx is just a way to signal that you are woke. Since they have pushed folks for everything and co-called "normies" are using it now, they need to go a step further to make sure you know they are part of the special group.

xg15 5y ago

> motherboard/mainboard doesn't even offend me any more. I kind of get it, even though it is lame logic. Same as "master branch"/"main branch". If there is an equivalent, less fancy and less controversial technical term, by all means let's use that instead. As long as you don't start with "childbearing person board" or "privileged branch" or whatever.

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goatlover 5y ago

I've only ever heard it from a few white people and NPR.