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So I'm a minor contributor to the posted project. And my personal opinion is that phone AR and headset AR will be completely different use cases. Phones are ev

So I'm a minor contributor to the posted project. And my personal opinion is that phone AR and headset AR will be completely different use cases. Phones are everywhere because they fit in your pocket. Headsets never will, so will be specialty hardware. Maybe I'm wrong and it'll be normal to walk around with headsets everywhere, but I just can't see it happening. Phone AR is technologically worse, and the version we released today is performance-wise not as good as the version with extra hardware we released 3 years ago. But it's slowly improving, and convenient form factors often beat more cumbersome devices over the long term, e.g. phones vs desktops. So I they can exist side-by-side, but headsets will be only used in some scenarios, while phones will be used by everyone.

mherrmann 4y ago
> convenient form factors often beat more cumbersome devices over the long term You worked on this so know more than me. As a user, I'd find it very cumbersome to hold my phone constantly for AR. I would much prefer glasses if they're comfortable and look normal.
- lazyjeff 4y ago
  It's definitely a consideration. The way I think of AR is: AR/VR headset = desktop AR glasses (2025+) = laptop phone AR = phone So phone AR has ergonomic challenges kind of like the small screen and slow speeds that smartphones had when they first came out. You'd use phone AR to throw a pokeball outside, or use phone AR to touch up your virtual makeup / decor for AR selfies like you do with phone selfies (which are similarly ergonomically challenging). When AR glasses become an everyday thing, they'll be the workhorses and you'll take it around with you while traveling or for work. Finally, for dedicated production tasks, you'll get your AR/VR headsets and use it in pre-specified locations.
  - mdp2021 4y ago
    > 2025+ 2025? Wearing them since 2018... :) I suppose the software from Jing and Jeff should work on them.
randoglando 4y ago
> Headsets never will, Not in the current form factor. But in other form factors they could be everywhere.
mdp2021 4y ago
> normal to walk around with headsets everywhere Not everywhere - more like, in relatively isolated places -, but some of us do. Have you tried the Epson Moverio? I am tempted to test your software on them.

mherrmann 4y ago

> convenient form factors often beat more cumbersome devices over the long term You worked on this so know more than me. As a user, I'd find it very cumbersome to hold my phone constantly for AR. I would much prefer glasses if they're comfortable and look normal.

lazyjeff 4y ago
It's definitely a consideration. The way I think of AR is: AR/VR headset = desktop AR glasses (2025+) = laptop phone AR = phone So phone AR has ergonomic challenges kind of like the small screen and slow speeds that smartphones had when they first came out. You'd use phone AR to throw a pokeball outside, or use phone AR to touch up your virtual makeup / decor for AR selfies like you do with phone selfies (which are similarly ergonomically challenging). When AR glasses become an everyday thing, they'll be the workhorses and you'll take it around with you while traveling or for work. Finally, for dedicated production tasks, you'll get your AR/VR headsets and use it in pre-specified locations.
- mdp2021 4y ago
  > 2025+ 2025? Wearing them since 2018... :) I suppose the software from Jing and Jeff should work on them.

randoglando 4y ago

> Headsets never will, Not in the current form factor. But in other form factors they could be everywhere.

mdp2021 4y ago

> normal to walk around with headsets everywhere Not everywhere - more like, in relatively isolated places -, but some of us do. Have you tried the Epson Moverio? I am tempted to test your software on them.