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`- there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont need this kind of crap)` This is what pushing me over the edge. I have both

`- there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows (Kids really dont need this kind of crap)` This is what pushing me over the edge. I have both Netflix and Amazon prime subscriptions. I have thought several times to drop one. The only reason I still have Netflix is because my wife and kids watch their shows. But I have had a hard time finding good shows because everything is political, and I hate when the trailer deceives me and they just inject pure political propaganda in the middle of the show. Suddenly I found myself reading about Synology NAS and how to set up Plex on it. I am very close to buy a Synology NAS, and to boot I can get host my own VPN server, seems like a good idea.

otterley 4y ago
Can you give some examples of shows, scenes, or dialogue that you find particularly objectionable, and why?
- ODILON_SATER 4y ago
  An example is the complete unnecessary cast of Caroline Henderson (a black woman) to the series "Vikings: Valhalla". I understand it is a fictional story, but these are Vikings for pete's sake. The only reason they cast her was evidently for diversity reasons. It is a distraction to the story, I immediately turned off. Though we know that not all vikings had blonde hair, some may be even a bit more dark skinned, but definitely not black. And it is more laughable because she's a character that yields some power in the Viking society. Laughable and a distraction to the story. Another example of a series that, instead of focusing on its central theme, ends up injecting politically-motivated content is the series "High Score". Listen, I understand that a small portion of early video game enthusiasts care about those things, but for a series that has a purpose to tell the relevant stories about creation and development of video games in the 80s and 90s, you just can't help but to think that they felt that they needed to inject some LGBT content in it such as in episode 3 on the story about the 1st LGBT RPG game GayBlade. They end up leaving more relevant content on the table to shoehorn these themes into the series. Not everything needs to be "gay", or having a "gay angle".
- andrew_ 4y ago
  I've never seen a question like this asked in good faith on HN. Seems it's always to pick a fight.
  - bcrosby95 4y ago
    I'm honestly curious too. Our kids watch chip & potato, octonauts, number blocks, and all sorts of things. None of it seems political. But maybe I'm missing something. Hell, Netflix even has barbie cartoons, which leftists don't exactly view highly.
  - otterley 4y ago
    I ask to elevate the level of discussion here. Speaking in generalities and characterizing people's work without evidence is too facile; you can go to other popular social media sites for that. Elsewhere in this thread, my gentle prodding has led to discussion of some actual shows and scenes that people are thinking of, and it's led to much more interesting - and less heated - discussion.
  - stonogo 4y ago
    That's funny, because I've never seen a question like this answered, except with handwaving about how the poster can't say more, or they don't want to get distracted with specifics, or a handful of other reasons the original claim can't be backed up.
  - sofal 4y ago
    I think it's because most of the time the "politics" that are objected to tend to be things like having an LGBT character in a show. While it's probably not true that everyone who complains about "politics" on TV these days are objecting to LGBT people, it is almost certainly true that everyone who watches TV and gets disgusted by seeing an LGBT character will code their disgust in terms of "being tired of politics" shoved down their throat, etc. Thus it tends to be very likely that the person complaining about "politics" is simply masking a disgust of others' identities, but doesn't want to get into specifics because it would be a bad look. Therefore the question asking for specifics is interpreted as a way to pick a fight, because they know what might ensue if they actually got into specifics.
- arghnoname 4y ago
  I think water sanitation is vital, good, etc If every show I watched had ham-fisted dialogue about how great water sanitation is, how we should all happily pay more taxes to support it, how flushing chemicals down the toilet is evil, etc, I'd turn the channel off. Even if you agree with the message, being preached to can be off-putting. If you disagree with the message and people like you are framed as cartoonish villains, it's a different matter entirely.
- pineconewarrior 4y ago
  Thank you for taking the time to call these people out (or at least asking them explain themselves). Calmly thinking through ones prejudices, even if only to defend them, is an easy way to erase them.
8note 4y ago
Everything is political, if not your view, to somebody else's. you might prefer to watch fox news for entertainment that doesnt feel political?

otterley 4y ago

Can you give some examples of shows, scenes, or dialogue that you find particularly objectionable, and why?

ODILON_SATER 4y ago
An example is the complete unnecessary cast of Caroline Henderson (a black woman) to the series "Vikings: Valhalla". I understand it is a fictional story, but these are Vikings for pete's sake. The only reason they cast her was evidently for diversity reasons. It is a distraction to the story, I immediately turned off. Though we know that not all vikings had blonde hair, some may be even a bit more dark skinned, but definitely not black. And it is more laughable because she's a character that yields some power in the Viking society. Laughable and a distraction to the story. Another example of a series that, instead of focusing on its central theme, ends up injecting politically-motivated content is the series "High Score". Listen, I understand that a small portion of early video game enthusiasts care about those things, but for a series that has a purpose to tell the relevant stories about creation and development of video games in the 80s and 90s, you just can't help but to think that they felt that they needed to inject some LGBT content in it such as in episode 3 on the story about the 1st LGBT RPG game GayBlade. They end up leaving more relevant content on the table to shoehorn these themes into the series. Not everything needs to be "gay", or having a "gay angle".
andrew_ 4y ago
I've never seen a question like this asked in good faith on HN. Seems it's always to pick a fight.
- bcrosby95 4y ago
  I'm honestly curious too. Our kids watch chip & potato, octonauts, number blocks, and all sorts of things. None of it seems political. But maybe I'm missing something. Hell, Netflix even has barbie cartoons, which leftists don't exactly view highly.
- otterley 4y ago
  I ask to elevate the level of discussion here. Speaking in generalities and characterizing people's work without evidence is too facile; you can go to other popular social media sites for that. Elsewhere in this thread, my gentle prodding has led to discussion of some actual shows and scenes that people are thinking of, and it's led to much more interesting - and less heated - discussion.
- stonogo 4y ago
  That's funny, because I've never seen a question like this answered, except with handwaving about how the poster can't say more, or they don't want to get distracted with specifics, or a handful of other reasons the original claim can't be backed up.
- sofal 4y ago
  I think it's because most of the time the "politics" that are objected to tend to be things like having an LGBT character in a show. While it's probably not true that everyone who complains about "politics" on TV these days are objecting to LGBT people, it is almost certainly true that everyone who watches TV and gets disgusted by seeing an LGBT character will code their disgust in terms of "being tired of politics" shoved down their throat, etc. Thus it tends to be very likely that the person complaining about "politics" is simply masking a disgust of others' identities, but doesn't want to get into specifics because it would be a bad look. Therefore the question asking for specifics is interpreted as a way to pick a fight, because they know what might ensue if they actually got into specifics.
arghnoname 4y ago
I think water sanitation is vital, good, etc If every show I watched had ham-fisted dialogue about how great water sanitation is, how we should all happily pay more taxes to support it, how flushing chemicals down the toilet is evil, etc, I'd turn the channel off. Even if you agree with the message, being preached to can be off-putting. If you disagree with the message and people like you are framed as cartoonish villains, it's a different matter entirely.
pineconewarrior 4y ago
Thank you for taking the time to call these people out (or at least asking them explain themselves). Calmly thinking through ones prejudices, even if only to defend them, is an easy way to erase them.

8note 4y ago

Everything is political, if not your view, to somebody else's. you might prefer to watch fox news for entertainment that doesnt feel political?