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"there is too much political agenda sold even in children shows" Yes sadly this has become much more prominent in the last couple of years. It has blatant pol

• otterley 5y ago
  Can you provide some examples of this, and how it's impacting children in some sort of harmful way?
  • cdelsolar 5y ago
    (Spoiler: no, they can't)
    • petefromnorth 5y ago
      It's very real. I have friends in the industry working on a Netflix series, and the amount of political correctness being forced on them from the Netflix side is insane. I cannot give a specific example due to exposing which show this may be on, but if the stories I hear or true, the Netflix staff must do a lot of Yoga cause the stuff they force to change is a stretch. The artists I know on the show went from being excited, to just there for a paycheck after certain fruits were deemed racist around black characters (not watermelons), and a LGBT plotline was forced into a childrens show just because.
      • otterley 5y ago
        The info you've supplied doesn't support your premise. You say "it's very real," but you admit you cannot cite a single example, and your only evidence is some vague hearsay.
        • o_1 5y ago
          Hearsay is this a courtroom? I'll cite an example : the entire front page of Netflix is an agenda. When they removed ratings I knew it was going downhill.
        • petefromnorth 5y ago
          I can, but I am choosing not to as to preserve privacy. Just one data point, you are welcome to not believe it.
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  • roody15 5y ago
    I didn't suggest it was "hurting" children however I do believe it hurts the overall quality of the programming. One example that probably flirts the line with hurting children was Netflix's Cuties. "Netflix is also the streaming service behind "Cuties," a wildly controversial French film that tells the coming-of-age story of an 11-year-old girl as she discovers her maturing self, all while looking for acceptance in her religious family and group of young dancers she hopes to befriend" If you want examples of pardon the term but I guess "woke" programming, this list is pretty extensive on Netflix. You can do a quick google search yourself to see lots of examples here. My personal take (as someone who is left leaning) is when these messages are bombarded into programming it often feels forced.. even perhaps propagandized. This level of inauthenticity hurts the overall artistic and entertainment value of the programming (just my two cents).
    • otterley 5y ago
      Can you give an example of a scene or dialogue that poses a problem, and why it's a particular problem?
      • ipaddr 5y ago
        I watched a recent program about a clothing brand who they tried to peg as racist but failed. The content itself is political. That's increasingly problematic.
        • nigerian1981 5y ago
          You mean about Abercrombie & Fitch? The company whose former CEO Mike Jeffries effectively spelled out his tactics in a now-infamous profile on the news site Salon, saying: "We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don't belong (in our clothes), and they can't belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely."[1] [1]https://edition.cnn.com/style/amp/abercrombie-fitch-exclusion-netflix-documentary/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/style/amp/abercrombie-fitch-exclusio...
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  • rxactor 5y ago
    I disagree with the parent comment that is is commonplace (I think it is rare) but I have definitely seen it. Several episodes of shows for girls under 5 have the trope "boys/grownups say girls can't do X" which the girl characters have to overcome. This is absurd material to expose to children of that age, who have never been exposed to the concept outside of children's programming! It's so far removed from the reality of young girls today it makes me doubt that the people writing this stuff even have children.
    • everdrive 5y ago
      They've been doing this my whole life, and it drives me nuts. I used to complain that nearly every Disney movie on TV contrived some reason for men to be assholes and say something along the lines of "GIRLS can't play soccer!" Only of course to be thoroughly flummoxed by the end. It's endlessly tiring, and as you note, it inadvertently demonstrates to girls the bigotry it hopes to overcome.
      • someguydave 5y ago
        World Cup women’s soccer lose to high school men https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-boys-squad-beat-the-u-s-womens-national-team-in-a-scrimmage/ https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-dallas-fc-under-15-b... Telling girls they can be stronger than men is a lie that can lead to terrible outcomes.
        • otterley 5y ago
          Well, there are some who can. Why stop them if they have that ability? Why not encourage them, under the right conditions?
          • someguydave 5y ago
            There is a massive difference between encouraging talented girls and telling girls they can be as strong as men.
  • zo1 5y ago
    Not OP. But I looked it up. A lot of the ones I found are ones my kids watched and I didn't even notice! Just shows how insidious and gently "slipped in" it is. https://www.romper.com/life/lgbtq-shows-kids-family https://www.romper.com/life/lgbtq-shows-kids-family Not that it's bad for those people to believe in those things or anything. But I don't want my kids exposed and normalized to these things until they're an appropriate age to decide on their own.
    • ryandrake 5y ago
      I clicked that link expecting to see opinions on “Trickle down economics” or “abortion” or “ownership of the means of production” being fed to children but all I see is: “Same sex couples exist.” “Same sex couples exist” is not a political view. It is a reality of fact that children of all ages already know. My kid’s best friend since age 5 has two moms. Trust me: she has no concept of what politics are but knows what two loving parents are. If “gays exist” is the example of politics jammed into TV, that’s a really really weak example.
    • 8note 5y ago
      I'm not clear that your children can become old enough to decide things for themselves without exposure to the world. Hiding things from them is going to make their decisions more naive.
  • xedrac 5y ago
    In one kid show "She-Ra" for example, every relationship is gay/lesbian save for one. I cannot prove harm in any meaningful way, but I think this sort of misrepresentation of reality is very confusing to kids.
    • ryandrake 5y ago
      Smurfs were all (but one) male. I wouldn’t read too much into She-Ra. And “same sex couples exist” is not really a political statement. Now, when She-Ra starts having extended monologues about taxation policy or the virtues of direct democracy vs. representative government, I’ll support ya!
      • robonerd 5y ago
        Smurfette was created by the evil wizard Gargamel to undermine Smurf society. (I'm not joking, that's canon.)
    • xedrac 5y ago
      @ryandrake I believe the poster's comment about "political agenda" was really referring to more of a "social agenda".
    • heimidal 5y ago
      She-Ra is a show that takes place in a world where people _wield magical swords while riding around half-naked on giant armored tigers_. Yet your chief complaint is that a friend group having several non-heterosexual relationships is a "misrepresentation of reality"? Seriously?
    • martinjacobd 5y ago
      Gay/lesbian relationships are overrepresented relative to real life in She-Ra, but there is far more than one heterosexual relationship. Off the top of my head there is Bow and Glimmer, Queen Angela and King Micah, Mermista and Seahawk, and Entrapta and Hordak by the last episode.
  • everdrive 5y ago
    Political themes in TV shows are pretty ubiquitous these days. In part this is because US politics are more interested in "culture war" issues than they are with specific political platforms. In other words, culture war issues tend to deal with moral and social values. In a previous time, political issues might be much more limited in scope: what should the government tax? Which regulations are helpful? etc. "Culture war" issues tend to be a bit more subtle, and can usually be ignored as valid plot devices. There's not even anything explicitly wrong with adding your own cultural values to a movie, but rather it can get pretty overbearing, even if you tend to agree. A good way to look out for these themes is to look at the characters and ask some basic questions: - Which characters in the show are in charge? What groups (racial, sexual, etc) are they from? - Which characters in the show are competent? What groups are they from? - Which characters in the show are the villains? What groups are they from? - Which characters in the show are the victims? What groups are they from? - Which characters have "good" traits such as humility, kindness, etc? - Which characters are shown to be bigots? - etc. This can get a bit more complex, too. The solutions to problems, or explanations for the ills of the world might also follow culture war lines. Who are the bad guys? Are they from a corporation? From the government? From a certain gender or ethnic group? etc. A great example of this might be the Mulan remake vs. the original. In the remake, much of the movie is occupied with showing how Mulan is better than everyone, and then quickly cutting to show face-shots of men who are either severely intimated, cowed, afraid, or impressed. I'm not suggesting there is anything wrong with this. Rather I'm just making the point that this was added to the movie for political and cultural reasons. The original cartoon didn't really have much comeuppance in this way, because it was written during a different time. Again, I don't think there's anything wrong with people putting their political views into shows -- really, that's inevitable at some level. But, there's also a certain level where it becomes too over the top, too sanctimonious, too pervasive, and you just want to get away from it all.
    • tomnipotent 5y ago
      Poppycock. Political issues in media have always included cultural and social issues, it's just that they now span a larger universe that includes more than white male Christians.
• 0xcafecafe 5y ago
  Can you please provide examples of said propaganda in NFLX programming? Genuinely curious.
  • xedrac 5y ago
    See my comment above about She-Ra.
    • tomnipotent 5y ago
      So not having only heterosexual relationships means that the content is propaganda?
      • DocTomoe 5y ago
        When they go to the polar opposite - only homosexual relationships - then it might be.
        • splatzone 5y ago
          I haven’t seen She-Ra, is it only gay relationships? I’m curious if you think a show with only straight relationships is propagandistic too (ie most TV ever made)
          • Fomite 5y ago
            It isn't. But in a show called "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power", you're going to have a lot of lesbian relationships if the cast ends up mostly paired. But there's a mix of relationships.
• orangepurple 5y ago
  This is designed to shift the overton window. I'm not sure who benefits from it or why it's being rammed through though.
• cguess 5y ago
  You never watched Sesame Street did you? They've been explaining social issues to kids since the 1960's. Of course Mr. Rodger's first episode was explaining the Vietnam War. Kids shows are and have always been political if they're not pure fantasy (even then...)