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I don't think death is a thing that can be "solved" ( as in, it's not a problem per se and "solving" it will only cause a lot of problems). There's only a finit

by sofixa 5y ago

I don't think death is a thing that can be "solved" ( as in, it's not a problem per se and "solving" it will only cause a lot of problems). There's only a finite amount of resources on the planet after all, so we can't have everybody live for as long as they want while also making children.

r3trohack3r 5y ago
It’s only technically true that there are a finite number of resources on the planet. But I don’t think that’s true in any meaningful sense. This isn’t zero sum - humans are able to expand the available resources and have already demonstrated they are capable of that. We are well past earths natural carrying capacity for our species - and we have been for quite a long time. But humans have solved those problems. Yes we’ve created problems in the process, but we are solving those too. So far nothing indicates to me that humans can’t continue solving the growing pains on earth long enough to get access to the (nearly) limitless supply of resources available in the cosmos.
- phkahler 5y ago
  >> This isn’t zero sum - humans are able to expand the available resources and have already demonstrated they are capable of that. Nonsense. People are getting better at accessing resources that were hard to get at. But doing so is just a symptom of the low hanging fruit running out.
  - astrange 5y ago
    We’re not going to use up all the sunlight and the US uses less water than it did in the 60s (and emits less CO2 per year than it did in the 2000s). That includes offshoring it too. Degrowth has no good evidence for it because it’s false. It’s just another version of baby boomers deciding their own children aren’t allowed to inherit their wealth.
frontman1988 5y ago
Living longer lives will definitely increase space travel. More people would be ready to sacrifice a few decades of their lives if that means space exploration. We would eventually colonize the solar system. I feel if we could literally halt death a lot of hedonism would stop. That YOLO feeling that plagues most of humanity would mostly go away. We would suddenly be a species with a clear aim. To know more about the universe and ourselves. We would find meaning in our lives and hopefully wisen up a little.

by sofixa 5y ago

r3trohack3r 5y ago

It’s only technically true that there are a finite number of resources on the planet. But I don’t think that’s true in any meaningful sense. This isn’t zero sum - humans are able to expand the available resources and have already demonstrated they are capable of that. We are well past earths natural carrying capacity for our species - and we have been for quite a long time. But humans have solved those problems. Yes we’ve created problems in the process, but we are solving those too. So far nothing indicates to me that humans can’t continue solving the growing pains on earth long enough to get access to the (nearly) limitless supply of resources available in the cosmos.

phkahler 5y ago
>> This isn’t zero sum - humans are able to expand the available resources and have already demonstrated they are capable of that. Nonsense. People are getting better at accessing resources that were hard to get at. But doing so is just a symptom of the low hanging fruit running out.
- astrange 5y ago
  We’re not going to use up all the sunlight and the US uses less water than it did in the 60s (and emits less CO2 per year than it did in the 2000s). That includes offshoring it too. Degrowth has no good evidence for it because it’s false. It’s just another version of baby boomers deciding their own children aren’t allowed to inherit their wealth.

frontman1988 5y ago

Living longer lives will definitely increase space travel. More people would be ready to sacrifice a few decades of their lives if that means space exploration. We would eventually colonize the solar system. I feel if we could literally halt death a lot of hedonism would stop. That YOLO feeling that plagues most of humanity would mostly go away. We would suddenly be a species with a clear aim. To know more about the universe and ourselves. We would find meaning in our lives and hopefully wisen up a little.