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I’m sure there plenty of war crimes from both sides. War brutalises all participants. There’s a video on Reddit of Ukrainian soldiers shooting Russian POWs in

I’m sure there plenty of war crimes from both sides. War brutalises all participants. There’s a video on Reddit of Ukrainian soldiers shooting Russian POWs in legs, with AKs. The soldiers were from a local guard, and the POWs from an artillery unit that had been bombarding their small city. I think it’s on /r/combatfootage, or /r/UkraineWarVideoReport, if you want to look it up.

sofixa 5y ago
That video has been debunked as fake btw, it's riddled with inconsistencies in blood presence, patterns, uniforms. Furthermore, if Ukrainians are committing war crimes against the invading Russian army which basically has war crimes as their tactics and strategy, they're mostly morally justified. Hopefully they don't.
- hef19898 5y ago
  War crimes are war crimes, nothing justifies those ever. Stuff has to be really nasty to still be considered a crime during times actively killing other people is completely legal and the main activity, aka war.
- ycombinete 5y ago
  I saw the discussion around it’s legitimacy when it was released, but didn’t see anything conclusive at the time. I’ll look again.
- antisthenes 5y ago
  > Furthermore, if Ukrainians are committing war crimes against the invading Russian army which basically has war crimes as their tactics and strategy, they're mostly morally justified. Hopefully they don't. Yikes. Good thing you don't speak for anyone but yourself. Justifying war crimes from any side is so far beyond the pale, it's mind-blowing.
  - sofixa 5y ago
    You should read again, I'm not justifying anything and i said "hopefully they don't", but if you don't see why a person seeing the carnage uttered by the invading barbarous Russian army might want to enact revenge including through illegal means like shooting POWs ( the guys who just went around looting, raping and murdering civilians) I don't know what to tell you. For a precedent, the Soviet army treated German POWs and worse, civilians, atrociously. But they had just suffered through a bitter war of destruction where they themselves were treated similarly. It's up to the commanders to keep things clean and not let the anger spillover. Of course the Soviets didn't care, and on the contrary encouraged atrocities. So far the Ukrainians seem to be taking the high road, and all the better for everyone.

sofixa 5y ago

That video has been debunked as fake btw, it's riddled with inconsistencies in blood presence, patterns, uniforms. Furthermore, if Ukrainians are committing war crimes against the invading Russian army which basically has war crimes as their tactics and strategy, they're mostly morally justified. Hopefully they don't.

hef19898 5y ago
War crimes are war crimes, nothing justifies those ever. Stuff has to be really nasty to still be considered a crime during times actively killing other people is completely legal and the main activity, aka war.
ycombinete 5y ago
I saw the discussion around it’s legitimacy when it was released, but didn’t see anything conclusive at the time. I’ll look again.
antisthenes 5y ago
> Furthermore, if Ukrainians are committing war crimes against the invading Russian army which basically has war crimes as their tactics and strategy, they're mostly morally justified. Hopefully they don't. Yikes. Good thing you don't speak for anyone but yourself. Justifying war crimes from any side is so far beyond the pale, it's mind-blowing.
- sofixa 5y ago
  You should read again, I'm not justifying anything and i said "hopefully they don't", but if you don't see why a person seeing the carnage uttered by the invading barbarous Russian army might want to enact revenge including through illegal means like shooting POWs ( the guys who just went around looting, raping and murdering civilians) I don't know what to tell you. For a precedent, the Soviet army treated German POWs and worse, civilians, atrociously. But they had just suffered through a bitter war of destruction where they themselves were treated similarly. It's up to the commanders to keep things clean and not let the anger spillover. Of course the Soviets didn't care, and on the contrary encouraged atrocities. So far the Ukrainians seem to be taking the high road, and all the better for everyone.