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What's missing is the cognitive dissonance most companies present. They claim to "care about people", "care about the environment", etc. You don't care about p

What's missing is the cognitive dissonance most companies present. They claim to "care about people", "care about the environment", etc. You don't care about people when they clearly perform their best work offline and they want to work offline, then push them back into the office (goes vice versa as well). You don't care about society when you push office workers to come in during rush hour because you don't give them enough money to live near the city, while trying to squeeze any tax benefit out which could make the city more habitable. It's not just the office workers; the people who can't WFH also spend more time in traffic. You don't care about the ecology when you continue to push people to drive, one of the largest sources of emissions individuals can fight against when given the chance. Yes, the individual suffers. But these guys always try to sell it as if coming to the office does society some great favor. It doesn't.

dominotw 5y ago
> They claim to "care about people", "care about the environment", etc. yes but no one believes this. so what does that matter.
- prewett 5y ago
  Some of us don't like dealing with liars / propogandists / BSers, and think that you should mean what you say.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  >so what does that matter. What it matters is that as part of claiming to care about the environment they get rid of the paper towels in the break room. As part of claiming to care about safety they annoy everyone with stupid blanket policies that just cause everyone to break the rules. As part of caring about mental health they involve HR in things that would be better without HR involved.
ActorNightly 5y ago
> they clearly perform their best work offline and they want to work offline, Be careful with this. My biggest concern is that the younger generation is perpetually online, and being in person in the office interacting with other people is the only way they stayed somewhat grounded to reality. While short term effects may be positive improved morale boost for more people, long term effects are unknown. We have already seen what the online world does to people, and WFH is not going to make this any better.
- BlargMcLarg 5y ago
  This is already happening and was happening even with them going to the office. You only have to look at how many people are perpetually glued to their smartphones and monitors, even in the office, the moment no one expects them to do any hard work. The office is not a solution to perpetually doom scrolling social media when almost everyone in the office does it, and the few who don't aren't there to police others. Besides, there are various problems with this. It isn't just the younger generation. A lot of younger people do resonate far better with people online than the senior who was spared several current-day problems that the younger generations now face. Finally, creating yet another dependency with the office seems like a bad idea when so many have already shown to end up extremely poorly. Teach people to interact in person outside the office instead of having companies act like an adult daycare.

dominotw 5y ago

> They claim to "care about people", "care about the environment", etc. yes but no one believes this. so what does that matter.

prewett 5y ago
Some of us don't like dealing with liars / propogandists / BSers, and think that you should mean what you say.
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
>so what does that matter. What it matters is that as part of claiming to care about the environment they get rid of the paper towels in the break room. As part of claiming to care about safety they annoy everyone with stupid blanket policies that just cause everyone to break the rules. As part of caring about mental health they involve HR in things that would be better without HR involved.

ActorNightly 5y ago

> they clearly perform their best work offline and they want to work offline, Be careful with this. My biggest concern is that the younger generation is perpetually online, and being in person in the office interacting with other people is the only way they stayed somewhat grounded to reality. While short term effects may be positive improved morale boost for more people, long term effects are unknown. We have already seen what the online world does to people, and WFH is not going to make this any better.

BlargMcLarg 5y ago
This is already happening and was happening even with them going to the office. You only have to look at how many people are perpetually glued to their smartphones and monitors, even in the office, the moment no one expects them to do any hard work. The office is not a solution to perpetually doom scrolling social media when almost everyone in the office does it, and the few who don't aren't there to police others. Besides, there are various problems with this. It isn't just the younger generation. A lot of younger people do resonate far better with people online than the senior who was spared several current-day problems that the younger generations now face. Finally, creating yet another dependency with the office seems like a bad idea when so many have already shown to end up extremely poorly. Teach people to interact in person outside the office instead of having companies act like an adult daycare.