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How did you get from type hints to black, not to mention poetry? Seems like you're just complaining about there being a mature ecosystem around Python, and the

• wheelerof4te 4y ago
  And here I thought my explanation at the bottom covered this. Let's try again: Python has become a mess. It is no longer a simple productive language to get into like it used to be. Now, you are expected to buy into it's ecosystem, like it is C# or Java. Well, it is not. It's Python and I am truly sad they are killing it with thousand cuts.
  • tomerv 4y ago
    Yes, it's getting more complicated. Yes, there's a whole ecosystem being built around it, and the line between language and ecosystem is blurry. And indeed, there's a hidden expectation for any Python developer to buy into the whole ecosystem. But that's just a symptom of a mature programming language that's used in a variety of complicated scenarios. You don't have to do it all, and no-one is forcing you. You can always write your one-off script without black, flake8, type hinting, or anything of the sort. If it's just your script then no-one will even know. On the other hand, if you want your code to be part of the larger ecosystem, then you're expected to write it in a conformant way (e.g. pep8 formatting). And that's a good thing!