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At this point for me it’s less about the weight loss benefit and more about my body’s inability to effectively use the insulin. I’m not opposed to a plant base

At this point for me it’s less about the weight loss benefit and more about my body’s inability to effectively use the insulin. I’m not opposed to a plant based diet, but for me, the additional carbs would create extraneous insulin dependency. Most grains for me are just not doable at all…and every vegan/vegetarian I know seem to rely on grains as a main staple of their diet.

TaylorAlexander 5y ago
Interesting. Yeah the reason I felt some concern was that I listen to the YouTube channel linked in the last two videos a lot and I get the impression that animal products create lots of long term health risks. But I’m thinking about my vegan diet. When I started I relied on a LOT of carbs and grains. It just made it easy but it wasn’t very healthy (I made a hard switch before I really knew what to eat). Now four years in I don’t buy any bread or bagels. I don’t have bread in the house. I eat some brown rice. I don’t know if that disagrees with you. Here’s my daily diet: 2 liters (I usually eat less/day) blended in a vitamix blender: water, carrots, oat milk, blueberries, mango, strawberries, peaches, flax seed meal, chia seeds, protein powder, powdered peanut butter (PB2), For lunch I have a big salad, I snack on apples and some very healthy crackers (Mary’s crackers) Dinner is usually either a lentil vegetable curry mixed with brown rice, or I will have brown rice and sautéed vegetables with something like peanut sauce or teriyaki sauce. And that’s it! That’s what I eat pretty much every day. Oh I make some bomb vegan tacos now and then. No fake meat just lots of amazing plants. Anyway! I just wanted to share because I like this stuff and also I don’t eat a lot of grains. The brown rice could be replaced with lentils or something for pretty much no grains. I really like the Nutrition Facts YouTube channel so poke around there if you’d like. I see he has some videos on insulin: https://youtu.be/AoHvkrcr6EM https://youtu.be/AoHvkrcr6EM https://youtu.be/UTxLHqeXZNQ https://youtu.be/UTxLHqeXZNQ To your health!
- kcplate 5y ago
  I appreciate the sensitive feedback, its nice to have a dietary conversation on here that doesn’t degenerate into a binary equation. Grains are a big issue, but other things like the apples, carrots, peaches, crackers bounce up my blood sugar as well and would cause me challenges and likely have to go back on extraneous insulin to prevent the small blood vessel issues that hyperglycemia causes diabetics. For someone to restrict carbs on a vegan diet you are limited to basically cruciferous vegetables and certain berries. While I eat those things now, its the addition of the meat and dairy products that I eat that make enough variety for me to stick with it. Eating the same things every day is not something that I am able to do with success. That is the real test of any diet you take on…it has to be a real sustainable lifestyle change. For me that is the real benefit of keto, I have been able to make it that lifestyle change. It has definitely benefited me for my diabetes management and weight loss. I am realistic to acknowledge that there may be some long term issue, but the fact that I can get to the point of having a long term issue is the magic here.
  - TaylorAlexander 5y ago
    Yeah absolutely. The first video linked above talks about what type of vegan diet counteracts the post meal blood sugar rise. I linked two videos but I saw more videos when searching for “nutrition facts diabetes” or “nutrition facts insulin”. Just something to take a look at if you are curious. But again I’m happy you’ve got something that works!
    - kcplate 5y ago
      Thanks for the links, I will give them a look. I’m generally a “don’t mess with success” kind of a guy, but there may come a time where I need to tweak and it’s always nice to have a different perspective. I would describe myself as a keto evangelist (But only describe my experience with it), I’m certainly not a keto zealot. Keto folks and vegans tend to have those zealot reputations, but I definitely appreciate great dialog. Wish you well.
      - TaylorAlexander 5y ago
        Yeah I get that! Having recently found something that works for my health (I can finally lose weight in a healthy, sustainable way even when I don't have time for exercise!) I wouldn't want to mess with this either. I am just so worried for people who eat a lot of meat, based on the studies I keep hearing about from the Nutrition Facts youtube channel. Wishing you well and thank you too!

TaylorAlexander 5y ago

Interesting. Yeah the reason I felt some concern was that I listen to the YouTube channel linked in the last two videos a lot and I get the impression that animal products create lots of long term health risks. But I’m thinking about my vegan diet. When I started I relied on a LOT of carbs and grains. It just made it easy but it wasn’t very healthy (I made a hard switch before I really knew what to eat). Now four years in I don’t buy any bread or bagels. I don’t have bread in the house. I eat some brown rice. I don’t know if that disagrees with you. Here’s my daily diet: 2 liters (I usually eat less/day) blended in a vitamix blender: water, carrots, oat milk, blueberries, mango, strawberries, peaches, flax seed meal, chia seeds, protein powder, powdered peanut butter (PB2), For lunch I have a big salad, I snack on apples and some very healthy crackers (Mary’s crackers) Dinner is usually either a lentil vegetable curry mixed with brown rice, or I will have brown rice and sautéed vegetables with something like peanut sauce or teriyaki sauce. And that’s it! That’s what I eat pretty much every day. Oh I make some bomb vegan tacos now and then. No fake meat just lots of amazing plants. Anyway! I just wanted to share because I like this stuff and also I don’t eat a lot of grains. The brown rice could be replaced with lentils or something for pretty much no grains. I really like the Nutrition Facts YouTube channel so poke around there if you’d like. I see he has some videos on insulin: https://youtu.be/AoHvkrcr6EM https://youtu.be/AoHvkrcr6EM https://youtu.be/UTxLHqeXZNQ https://youtu.be/UTxLHqeXZNQ To your health!

kcplate 5y ago
I appreciate the sensitive feedback, its nice to have a dietary conversation on here that doesn’t degenerate into a binary equation. Grains are a big issue, but other things like the apples, carrots, peaches, crackers bounce up my blood sugar as well and would cause me challenges and likely have to go back on extraneous insulin to prevent the small blood vessel issues that hyperglycemia causes diabetics. For someone to restrict carbs on a vegan diet you are limited to basically cruciferous vegetables and certain berries. While I eat those things now, its the addition of the meat and dairy products that I eat that make enough variety for me to stick with it. Eating the same things every day is not something that I am able to do with success. That is the real test of any diet you take on…it has to be a real sustainable lifestyle change. For me that is the real benefit of keto, I have been able to make it that lifestyle change. It has definitely benefited me for my diabetes management and weight loss. I am realistic to acknowledge that there may be some long term issue, but the fact that I can get to the point of having a long term issue is the magic here.
- TaylorAlexander 5y ago
  Yeah absolutely. The first video linked above talks about what type of vegan diet counteracts the post meal blood sugar rise. I linked two videos but I saw more videos when searching for “nutrition facts diabetes” or “nutrition facts insulin”. Just something to take a look at if you are curious. But again I’m happy you’ve got something that works!
  - kcplate 5y ago
    Thanks for the links, I will give them a look. I’m generally a “don’t mess with success” kind of a guy, but there may come a time where I need to tweak and it’s always nice to have a different perspective. I would describe myself as a keto evangelist (But only describe my experience with it), I’m certainly not a keto zealot. Keto folks and vegans tend to have those zealot reputations, but I definitely appreciate great dialog. Wish you well.
    - TaylorAlexander 5y ago
      Yeah I get that! Having recently found something that works for my health (I can finally lose weight in a healthy, sustainable way even when I don't have time for exercise!) I wouldn't want to mess with this either. I am just so worried for people who eat a lot of meat, based on the studies I keep hearing about from the Nutrition Facts youtube channel. Wishing you well and thank you too!