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Well, I'd like my ISP to get their nose out of my traffic and stop sniffing like a coke addict. One of Net Neutrality arguments is that you sell me speed (and b

Well, I'd like my ISP to get their nose out of my traffic and stop sniffing like a coke addict. One of Net Neutrality arguments is that you sell me speed (and bandwidth where data caps apply, but shouldn't) and I can do whatever I want. It is I, that pays for the service, not Netflix nor Google or any platform, and if I want to watch YouTube in 4K because my speed allows me to, or if I want to turn my PC into a seeding machine for Linux iso images, I should be free to do so. So there is an argument for DNS-over-HTTPS there on top of the NN one.

HWR_14 5y ago
It doesn't stop you from watching in 4K video. It just provides another option. But critically, this is an option that you, the customer, negotiate with T-Mobile. You contract for X gigs plus unlimited sub-480p traffic. And tiered data (X gigs of high-speed, Y or infinite gigs of low speed) is really common in cellphone contracts. This is just making it clear you can get the low speed data without having to burn your high speed up first.
- vel0city 5y ago
  > X gigs of high-speed, Y or infinite gigs of low speed But then why even bother with the paperwork to get approved to be a part of the program? Why doesn't T-Mo just ignore usage below some average throughput speed for any traffic?
  - HWR_14 5y ago
    A couple of reasons. One is that your paperwork guarantees you'll pay attention to their "throttle this down to sub-480p" request, which let them have their customers (who opted into it from t-mobile) not have to worry about how that apps streaming was free. That is, T-Mobile customers who turned that feature on could be presented whitelisted apps without needing to configure them. Two is that "free video streaming" sounds better when selling a service to their customers than "free Xmbps connections". Three is it allows a lot more freedom to T-mobile. They know they need to average X mbps so the stream doesn't jitter, but they can totally take advantage of an uncongested five minutes to let you download quickly to build your cache.

HWR_14 5y ago

It doesn't stop you from watching in 4K video. It just provides another option. But critically, this is an option that you, the customer, negotiate with T-Mobile. You contract for X gigs plus unlimited sub-480p traffic. And tiered data (X gigs of high-speed, Y or infinite gigs of low speed) is really common in cellphone contracts. This is just making it clear you can get the low speed data without having to burn your high speed up first.

vel0city 5y ago
> X gigs of high-speed, Y or infinite gigs of low speed But then why even bother with the paperwork to get approved to be a part of the program? Why doesn't T-Mo just ignore usage below some average throughput speed for any traffic?
- HWR_14 5y ago
  A couple of reasons. One is that your paperwork guarantees you'll pay attention to their "throttle this down to sub-480p" request, which let them have their customers (who opted into it from t-mobile) not have to worry about how that apps streaming was free. That is, T-Mobile customers who turned that feature on could be presented whitelisted apps without needing to configure them. Two is that "free video streaming" sounds better when selling a service to their customers than "free Xmbps connections". Three is it allows a lot more freedom to T-mobile. They know they need to average X mbps so the stream doesn't jitter, but they can totally take advantage of an uncongested five minutes to let you download quickly to build your cache.