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That's why I never got a data science job. They all seem too close to the business (much closer than typical web app development), and that's a bad thing in my

That's why I never got a data science job. They all seem too close to the business (much closer than typical web app development), and that's a bad thing in my book. My solution is to try to move "down the stack" and retrain to work with C++ and math-heavy jobs (computer vision, simulation etc.). From what I'm hearing, developers in those area have much less contact with the business side of company.

szundi 4y ago
Funny to see how bad this is. All stuff we do actually should be tightly coupled (be part of) with the so-called business - that brings the value outside the company’s doors
- throwaway693 4y ago
  As a dev its not valuable to spend time dealing business. The skills are not transferable and is only value to the current organization. This is where managers shine.
- burntoutfire 4y ago
  If you're working in say automotive industry on a simulator of car tire deformation, you're so far away from the business side that they leave you alone. Whereas in a SaaS business (or, worse yet, unprofitable SaaS Business), the business types have dozens of ideas on how to improve the app, they bombard you with them, often don't care about engineering culture or long-term code viability but only about speed of delivery etc. Then there are large boring corporations which are profitable, but have so much business and manangerial overhead and those people see generating lots of meetings and ideas (don't have to be good) as a part of their job description.
weq 4y ago
Down the stack + down the corperate ladder. The higher you are, sure you get more money, but you get MUCH the less time MUCH more pressure. If your talented in your field, u dont need a ladder to up your earning potential.
the_only_law 4y ago
> From what I'm hearing, developers in those area have much less contact with the business side of company. From what I’ve seen though, those domains don’t particularly have much interest in people without established careers in them already.

szundi 4y ago

Funny to see how bad this is. All stuff we do actually should be tightly coupled (be part of) with the so-called business - that brings the value outside the company’s doors

throwaway693 4y ago
As a dev its not valuable to spend time dealing business. The skills are not transferable and is only value to the current organization. This is where managers shine.
burntoutfire 4y ago
If you're working in say automotive industry on a simulator of car tire deformation, you're so far away from the business side that they leave you alone. Whereas in a SaaS business (or, worse yet, unprofitable SaaS Business), the business types have dozens of ideas on how to improve the app, they bombard you with them, often don't care about engineering culture or long-term code viability but only about speed of delivery etc. Then there are large boring corporations which are profitable, but have so much business and manangerial overhead and those people see generating lots of meetings and ideas (don't have to be good) as a part of their job description.

weq 4y ago

Down the stack + down the corperate ladder. The higher you are, sure you get more money, but you get MUCH the less time MUCH more pressure. If your talented in your field, u dont need a ladder to up your earning potential.

the_only_law 4y ago

> From what I'm hearing, developers in those area have much less contact with the business side of company. From what I’ve seen though, those domains don’t particularly have much interest in people without established careers in them already.