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Learn how to work to live, instead of live to work. Automate as much as possible and use the free time in your own projects.

by ffhhj 5y ago

GianFabien 5y ago
You can't automate meetings. Nor can you make PHBs become logical nor reasonable. Dilbert comic strip is actually a documentary.
- Faint 5y ago
  If the meeting is big enough, and you are remote, you can do whatever while "listening in" (and out of the other ear, if it doesn't concern you).
  - dehrmann 5y ago
    Some companies have a "law of two feet" regarding meetings. If it isn't a productive use of your time, you can leave. This is obviously very dependent on culture, and you're being trusted to make the judgement call.
BFLpL0QNek 5y ago
I don’t think this is the problem. As OP says they are working a 40hr+ week but the work can be done in much less. The work itself isn’t the issue, it’s the fluff around the work. Meetings, agile ceremonies, office politics/playing the game. There was a book on it, Bullshit jobs. My current situation is I’m in the easiest job I’ve had, fantastic package, working the slowest I’ve ever worked with no manager pressure, no “what you doing, where’s the product”. With that it’s burning me out daily. Agile ceremonies, splitting hairs on non important details bike shedding, not delivering, no product in twelve months, everything needs a meeting, a design doc, and unanimous agreement from the team. It’s killing me. I want to work hard and I want to build things and see things used. Essentially I’m sat twiddling thumbs knowing I am not working at my best because the culture/process is stopping me from actually doing the real work, the product features that customers pay for.
- ffhhj 5y ago
  Sometimes this is related to team workflow. On my last job I landed at a team with easy and interesting work, but it had lots of meetings, 2-4 daily from 1/2hr up to 2hrs, with some high pitch voices that drilled my ears, and ofcourse the soul-sucking boredom and repetitive polite fights. The team was dissolved and I moved to other teams with sane workflows, then I realized I had some bad luck at the beginning, but if that happened again I'd try to get transfered.

Learn how to work to live, instead of live to work. Automate as much as possible and use the free time in your own projects.

by ffhhj 5y ago

Learn how to work to live, instead of live to work. Automate as much as possible and use the free time in your own projects.

GianFabien 5y ago

You can't automate meetings. Nor can you make PHBs become logical nor reasonable. Dilbert comic strip is actually a documentary.

Faint 5y ago
If the meeting is big enough, and you are remote, you can do whatever while "listening in" (and out of the other ear, if it doesn't concern you).
- dehrmann 5y ago
  Some companies have a "law of two feet" regarding meetings. If it isn't a productive use of your time, you can leave. This is obviously very dependent on culture, and you're being trusted to make the judgement call.

BFLpL0QNek 5y ago

I don’t think this is the problem. As OP says they are working a 40hr+ week but the work can be done in much less. The work itself isn’t the issue, it’s the fluff around the work. Meetings, agile ceremonies, office politics/playing the game. There was a book on it, Bullshit jobs. My current situation is I’m in the easiest job I’ve had, fantastic package, working the slowest I’ve ever worked with no manager pressure, no “what you doing, where’s the product”. With that it’s burning me out daily. Agile ceremonies, splitting hairs on non important details bike shedding, not delivering, no product in twelve months, everything needs a meeting, a design doc, and unanimous agreement from the team. It’s killing me. I want to work hard and I want to build things and see things used. Essentially I’m sat twiddling thumbs knowing I am not working at my best because the culture/process is stopping me from actually doing the real work, the product features that customers pay for.

ffhhj 5y ago
Sometimes this is related to team workflow. On my last job I landed at a team with easy and interesting work, but it had lots of meetings, 2-4 daily from 1/2hr up to 2hrs, with some high pitch voices that drilled my ears, and ofcourse the soul-sucking boredom and repetitive polite fights. The team was dissolved and I moved to other teams with sane workflows, then I realized I had some bad luck at the beginning, but if that happened again I'd try to get transfered.