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Carnivore and keto diets are pretty much how much of the world ate until the 40s or so. Carnivore works for me, I did that for a few years some time back. I've
by smm11 5y ago
Carnivore and keto diets are pretty much how much of the world ate until the 40s or so. Carnivore works for me, I did that for a few years some time back. I've been keto with a carnivore slant for four years. My blood work is similar to yours.
I don't care what anyone else eats, have at it. But if you pay attention to those A1C commercials that are all over the place, cut down on the sugar a bit, would you?
- Blackthorn 5y ago> Carnivore and keto diets are pretty much how much of the world ate until the 40s or so Umm, what? The history of humanity is one of agriculture.
- KennyBlanken 5y agoExactly. It's times like this when I laugh at how handily HN proves Dunning-Kruger effect. Coding? Programming? Startups? Great discussion. Then any time HN has a post about the environment, food, health, energy policy, transportation, politics, human rights, etc the comments section is chock full of straight up "a simple google search disproves everything you've said."
- codeflow2202 5y agoThe last 12000 years maybe. We had 2.5 million years of hunting gathering before that. Only the very recent history is one of agriculture.
- freedom2099 5y agoHomo sapiens is 300k yo
- codeflow2202 5y agoHomo as a specie is way older. We started using tools and hunting way before homo sapiens. And even if you want to cherry pick homo sapiens, agriculture is just a minor fraction of his history.
- freedom2099 5y agoHomo is not a species but a genus therefore considering older and extinct species as reference for our dietary requirements would be unwise. And even before agriculture most of the calories of hunter gathers was coming from plants.
- codeflow2202 5y agoSaid who? You speak as a newagey vegan utopia believer. I wonder how some assertion like yours has ever been proven by anyone.
- freedom2099 5y agohttps://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-half-baked-how-hunter-gatherer-really-eat/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-ha... Also https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-half-baked-how-hunter-gatherer-really-eat/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-paleo-diet-ha... I quote: Humans come from a fairly generalized line of higher primates, a lineage able to utilize a wide range of plant and animal foods. There is general agreement that the ancestral line (Hominoidea) giving rise to humans was strongly herbivorous (14, 15). Modern human nutritional requirements (eg, the need for a dietary source of vitamin C), features of the modern human gut (haustrated colon), and the modern human pattern of digestive kinetics (similar to that of great apes) suggest an ancestral past in which tropical plant foods formed the basis of the daily diet, with perhaps some opportunistic intake of animal matter. Going on: Consumption of animal matter to satisfy requirements for protein and many essential micronutrients would free up space in the gut for carbohydrate-rich plant foods and allow for their use as fuel for the increasingly large human brain (14). Because humans initially evolved in Africa, where wild animals generally lack appreciable fat stores (2), it seems clear that they consumed a mixed diet of animal and plant foods, given the apparent limitations of human digestive physiology to secure adequate daily energy from protein sources alone (4). Whilst early human were not vegan they were hardly mostly carnivores either. Furthermore as stated in both articles basing the diet of modern humans on the one of our ancestors is a mistake! P.S. I am far from being vegan! Suturday I ate 600g of a delicious cow.
- Blackthorn 5y agoHistory, as opposed to prehistory, is by definition pegged to the start of agriculture. And, regardless, 12000 years is a lot further than "the 40s".
- barry-cotter 5y ago> Carnivore and keto diets are pretty much how much of the world ate until the 40s or so. This hasn’t been true since the dawn of agriculture. People mostly ate some kind of grain or tuber. Sometimes as gruel/meal, sometimes as bread, sometimes as mash but most people have been peasants since the dawn of farming and peasants eat carbs.
- jaclaz 5y ago> Carnivore and keto diets are pretty much how much of the world ate until the 40s or so. I guess it depends on "where". The so-called Mediterranean diet, which is the "normal" way of eating in Italy, basically consists of bread/pasta/vegetables and (olive) oil (but is not in any way vegetarian or vegan as eggs/poultry/cheese/fish are also largely present). Traditionally red meat was eaten once or maybe twice a week. So, not carnivore and not keto.