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Please go right on ahead and elaborate on why you believe this to be the case. From the HN guidelines: >Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, n

Please go right on ahead and elaborate on why you believe this to be the case. From the HN guidelines: >Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

JohnHaugeland 5y ago
I said everything I felt the need to say. I see that you want to scold and give instructions to strangers In the meantime, I also don't discuss medicine with antivaxxers, or geology with flat earthers I have no interest in explaining to you that your lambo moon buddies are wrong, that blockchains aren't databases, that montero doesn't search encrypted data, that these things legitimately do exist, etc It's just an opportunity for you to dutifully recite something that you saw someone else say, then pretend shows you to be technically sophisticated I don't care about horse apple paste people telling me that I'm not being constructive when I vocally doubt their unevidenced claims Nobody cares when you demand that other people prove you wrong. Religious people do that all day every day. There's a reason religion never proves itself right. I don't need to prove my doubt of you. Science is rooted in doubt.
- yowlingcat 5y ago
  You're going against the spirit of the guidelines of discourse for this community. Please take a look at them here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html In particular, you'd do well to look at these three guidelines: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. Your comments are snarky, dismissive, shallow and presume bad faith. Rather than engage with curiosity and thoughtfulness, you put words that were never said into the mouths of others, so you ultimately are not adding anything to the conversation. Maybe this is the standard of discourse on Twitter or Reddit, but it doesn't rise to HN's level of discourse. I'm not going to make a value judgment one way or another here, but I'll just say this -- if you can't explain what you really think without belittling others, people won't think it's because you're smarter than them. They will think it's because you have nothing to say (or you're too lazy to put in the effort into saying something) and you're afraid of that being made obvious.
  - JohnHaugeland 5y ago
    Please stop lecturing me with what you imagine the rules are. The entire answer is in that text. I'm not interested in your list of judgments or your following statement that you won't be making a judgment. I'm not interested in you telling me that you think I belong on Twitter, or your attempt to rely on having been here six years as being an old timer. You ignored everything I said and we both know why. Don't waste your time making another set of personal attacks.

Please go right on ahead and elaborate on why you believe this to be the case. From the HN guidelines: >Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

JohnHaugeland 5y ago

I said everything I felt the need to say. I see that you want to scold and give instructions to strangers In the meantime, I also don't discuss medicine with antivaxxers, or geology with flat earthers I have no interest in explaining to you that your lambo moon buddies are wrong, that blockchains aren't databases, that montero doesn't search encrypted data, that these things legitimately do exist, etc It's just an opportunity for you to dutifully recite something that you saw someone else say, then pretend shows you to be technically sophisticated I don't care about horse apple paste people telling me that I'm not being constructive when I vocally doubt their unevidenced claims Nobody cares when you demand that other people prove you wrong. Religious people do that all day every day. There's a reason religion never proves itself right. I don't need to prove my doubt of you. Science is rooted in doubt.

yowlingcat 5y ago
You're going against the spirit of the guidelines of discourse for this community. Please take a look at them here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html In particular, you'd do well to look at these three guidelines: > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > "Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith." > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something. Your comments are snarky, dismissive, shallow and presume bad faith. Rather than engage with curiosity and thoughtfulness, you put words that were never said into the mouths of others, so you ultimately are not adding anything to the conversation. Maybe this is the standard of discourse on Twitter or Reddit, but it doesn't rise to HN's level of discourse. I'm not going to make a value judgment one way or another here, but I'll just say this -- if you can't explain what you really think without belittling others, people won't think it's because you're smarter than them. They will think it's because you have nothing to say (or you're too lazy to put in the effort into saying something) and you're afraid of that being made obvious.
- JohnHaugeland 5y ago
  Please stop lecturing me with what you imagine the rules are. The entire answer is in that text. I'm not interested in your list of judgments or your following statement that you won't be making a judgment. I'm not interested in you telling me that you think I belong on Twitter, or your attempt to rely on having been here six years as being an old timer. You ignored everything I said and we both know why. Don't waste your time making another set of personal attacks.