What's the process look like for Python these days, after you install Python itself (or are made aware of the system Python if there is one)? IDLE was pretty ba

What's the process look like for Python these days, after you install Python itself (or are made aware of the system Python if there is one)? IDLE was pretty bad back in the day and even though it was 'easy' I wouldn't have recommended it to newcomers. Assuming you can convince people to give emacs a try (shouldn't be hard if they're convinced to give Lisp a try and otherwise don't have preexisting biases against emacs for other reasons), getting setup for Lisp is as easy as installing Portacle (https://portacle.github.io/ https://portacle.github.io/). It and any decent Lisp setup includes things like a hotkey to autocomplete, so you just type 'typ' and tab or whatever, and out pops suggestions like 'type', 'typep', 'type-of', ... and so you don't have to remember spelling; similarly they all should have some sort of intellisense to minimize trips to the CLHS or jumps to source code. I'm a vim head (which is why I don't know what newbie setups are like anymore apart from doing it in vim) but even when I type "(getf " I'm shown at the bottom "(getf PLACE INDICATOR &OPTIONAL (DEFAULT NIL))". If that's not enough, I can jump to source with "ctrl+]" (really nice being able to jump to the Lisp implementation's source for built-ins too without having to do anything special -- can even modify it live by adding print statements or whatever I want), or typing ",s" to get the symbol's describe output (I mainly like it for getting the docstring -- if memory serves though Portacle gives you the docstring with the lambda list in an intellisense popup automatically, like a Java IDE), and if I really need to ",h" opens a browser tab to the hyperspec page on that symbol. If Portacle isn't one's cup of tea, it becomes a bit harder, but I don't think it's "orders of magnitude" harder... Compared to setting up a local (L|W)AMP environment back in the mid-late 2000s, which tons of teens learning PHP did, it's a piece of cake. You install a Lisp implementation (like SBCL -- http://www.sbcl.org/platform-table.html http://www.sbcl.org/platform-table.html if your distro doesn't package it/have a recent version), configure it to use Quicklisp (a couple commands -- https://www.quicklisp.org/beta/ https://www.quicklisp.org/beta/), and consult the CL Cookbook for further basic steps on setting up the best environment you can for a variety of editors (https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.html https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.ht... -- emacs, vim, VS Code, Atom, Sublime...). For scaling, CL has scaled to multi-million lines of code projects, it scales fine. If you want more sophisticated type checking, there have been solutions over time, but in case you missed the latest and greatest take on it: https://github.com/coalton-lang/coalton https://github.com/coalton-lang/coalton