They seem to be taking issue with the "up or out" mentality of academia, and it's hard to fix academic mentality without talking about it and trying to change p

They seem to be taking issue with the "up or out" mentality of academia, and it's hard to fix academic mentality without talking about it and trying to change people's minds. I don't know how effective it will be, but it is a problem: Imagine a police department that fires everyone after 8 years total work experience, unless they are promoted to chief. It sounds ridiculous, but we typically hold on to researchers for a 5 year PhD + a 3-5 year postdoc. After that the expectation is that they should run their own group.