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Deutsch/Duits/Tysk all come from the name of yet another ancient Germanic tribe, the Teutons.
by danans 5y ago
Deutsch/Duits/Tysk all come from the name of yet another ancient Germanic tribe, the Teutons.
- CorrectHorseBat 5y agoNo it doesn't https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/deutsch#German https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/deutsch#German
- danans 5y agoBoth the name of the tribe and the ethnonym derive from the same PIE and proto Germanic root meaning something like "the people". They are closer to each other etymologically than any other words for "German".
- CorrectHorseBat 5y agoWhich is quite a different thing than what you said before. Just like one day I might be genetically closer to my brother than anyone else alive in the world, but he still wouldn't be my father.
- danans 5y agoI don't disagree with that - my wording was sloppy - but also consider that words aren't like genes. Horizontal phonetic transfer and phonetic reevaluation via processes like folk etymology are pervasive today and were also in the ancient past.
- zokier 5y agoOh, there is whole wikipedia article about this topic (of course..) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodiscus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodiscus > While morphologically similar, the Latin root Teutonic for "Germanic" is more distantly related, and originally a name of a Celtic or Germanic tribe that inhabited coastal Germany. It came probably via Celtic from Proto-Germanic þeudanaz ("ruler", "leader of the people"), from þeudō ("people, tribe"), from Proto-Indo-European *tewtéh₂ ("people", "tribe").
- kgeist 5y agoNo, Deutsch is related to the word Teuton through a common ancestor, but does not descend from it. In the Middle Ages, the word "tiudisc" (later Deutsch and Dutch) was used to refer to the "common people" and their vernacular language, as opposed to clergy and Latin. "German language" is etymologically "language of the common people".