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Indeed. It only takes 5 minutes to figure out that staying with Lightning serves Apple's existing customer base better than an arbitrary stupid change to USB-C,

by Bud 4y ago

Indeed. It only takes 5 minutes to figure out that staying with Lightning serves Apple's existing customer base better than an arbitrary stupid change to USB-C, which offers basically no advantages to iPhone users and a lot of disadvantages.

ultrarunner 4y ago
It would offer me the advantage of the phone not detecting a "non-genuine" lightning cable and refusing to charge. This used to be possible disable through jailbreaking, but the closest I've come lately (with admittedly little effort) is to get a phone at 10% to sit at 10% overnight, neither charging nor discharging. Ostensibly, a dumb pipe (yes, the CC pull-ups form a state bit) would preclude them the ability to prevent charging.
ars 4y ago
Who has so many lightning accessories that would be so disadvantaged? On the other hand switching to USB-C, like the entire rest of the planet would open up a TON of more devices that would now be compatible with Apple. It means you could actually charge your Apple phone when not at home, because most people have USB-C these days, but lighting only those who have Apple devices.
- Bud 4y ago
  Um, obviously a lot of people. Lightning is ten years old. People have ten years' worth of docks and cables and specialized accessories. Another thing most mindless USB-C promoters aren't aware of is, the Lightning port is significantly smaller than a USB-C port. Moving to USB-C would mean that the most vulnerable part of the metal iPhone frame, which is the area surrounding the charging port, would be significantly thinner. This is in addition to the connector itself also being more fragile. There's just not a good enough reason to change ports. If there were, Apple would have changed it already, like they did for the iPad eventually.
  - postalrat 4y ago
    Why should I continue to read what you have to say when you start off with false claims like "Lightning port is significantly smaller than a USB-C port".

by Bud 4y ago

ultrarunner 4y ago

It would offer me the advantage of the phone not detecting a "non-genuine" lightning cable and refusing to charge. This used to be possible disable through jailbreaking, but the closest I've come lately (with admittedly little effort) is to get a phone at 10% to sit at 10% overnight, neither charging nor discharging. Ostensibly, a dumb pipe (yes, the CC pull-ups form a state bit) would preclude them the ability to prevent charging.

ars 4y ago

Who has so many lightning accessories that would be so disadvantaged? On the other hand switching to USB-C, like the entire rest of the planet would open up a TON of more devices that would now be compatible with Apple. It means you could actually charge your Apple phone when not at home, because most people have USB-C these days, but lighting only those who have Apple devices.

Bud 4y ago
Um, obviously a lot of people. Lightning is ten years old. People have ten years' worth of docks and cables and specialized accessories. Another thing most mindless USB-C promoters aren't aware of is, the Lightning port is significantly smaller than a USB-C port. Moving to USB-C would mean that the most vulnerable part of the metal iPhone frame, which is the area surrounding the charging port, would be significantly thinner. This is in addition to the connector itself also being more fragile. There's just not a good enough reason to change ports. If there were, Apple would have changed it already, like they did for the iPad eventually.
- postalrat 4y ago
  Why should I continue to read what you have to say when you start off with false claims like "Lightning port is significantly smaller than a USB-C port".