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>Anderson Cooper 360 with no ads is all they needed. To each his own, I wouldn't watch that even if THEY paid me for it. Also, the market has spoken ...

bin_bash 5y ago
> the market has spoken No because "Anderson Cooper 360 without ads" isn't what they put on there, they put on the documentaries—not the pundits. Perhaps you don't like the pundits but the average CNN viewer does and I think might willing to pay $3/month for it. In fact I was surprised that paying for CNN+ I couldn't even watch Anderson Cooper 360 with ads! All you get is a 10-minute per day preview live stream of CNN unless you can "login through your cable provider".
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- moralestapia 5y ago
  >the average CNN viewer does and I think might willing to pay $3/month for it No, that didn't happen, see [1] 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31111276 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31111276
  - diputsmonro 5y ago
    Their point is that the average CNN viewer might be willing to pay for a service with different content. CNN+ did not serve the content they were referring to, so your flippant footnote does not apply.
- hintymad 5y ago
  Sounds a classic case of innovator's dilemma. The "classic" CNN simply wouldn't let CNN+ have all the resource they needed for that would hurt the cash cow of the "classic" CNN.
ericmay 5y ago
Well the market has spoken, you're right, Anderson Cooper (as far as I know) is a very popular show. It just also spoke in this specific context. I don't really care for CNN much either way, but every once in awhile somehow I get the "right" CNN International channel/vibe/show and it feels like what I thought international journalism should be.
- kybernetyk 5y ago
  Joe Rogan is far more popular and it’s free.
  - ericmay 5y ago
    I'm not following your point
- rayiner 5y ago
  Anderson Cooper is 25th in the 8/9pm time slot with 1.25 million viewers on average. Tucker is 1st with 3.25 million.
- WoodenChair 5y ago
  > Anderson Cooper (as far as I know) is a very popular show No, it's not a very popular show. Anderson Cooper is last amongst the three major primetime cable news shows. For example, for the week ending March 30th at the 8 PM slot you have (Total Viewers in thousands) [0]: Tucker Carlson Tonight: 3676 All In W/ Chris Hayes: 1445 Anderson Cooper 360: 890 Now keep in mind that >300,000,000 people live in the United States. So, not that many people are watching cable news to begin with. And definitely not that many young people who may subscribe to a streaming service instead of cable. I don't think there is any sizable market for a streaming service of Anderson Cooper. 0: https://www.mediaite.com/daily-ratings/cable-news-ratings-wednesday-march-30-lawrence-odonnell-leads-msnbc-in-total-viewers/ https://www.mediaite.com/daily-ratings/cable-news-ratings-we...
  - ericmay 5y ago
    It seems pretty popular to me. You're misconstruing "that's popular and people watch it" for "I agree with what the person is saying". Many people watch it. It makes money. Anderson Cooper makes money. Ergo the market is speaking quite clearly. For example, as vile, absolutely stupid, and wrong as Tucker Carlson is, the market is clearly speaking and he's quite popular. Now if you want to change your definition or raise your bar or something, sure go for it, but without any parameters I think anyone on prime time on CNN or any major news channel is by definition popular.
johndfsgdgdfg 5y ago
Yes, there are a lot of people whose identity is totally wrapped around politics. Got to Twitter. There are people who would spend hours on Twitter engaging in toxic fights with random people on internet. This is the reason I think reality TV shows have some utility for society. At least it lets people engage in something that is less harmful and less toxic than the Twitter culture war. It's better for society if people spend time on reality TV shows than Twitter culture war.

bin_bash 5y ago

> the market has spoken No because "Anderson Cooper 360 without ads" isn't what they put on there, they put on the documentaries—not the pundits. Perhaps you don't like the pundits but the average CNN viewer does and I think might willing to pay $3/month for it. In fact I was surprised that paying for CNN+ I couldn't even watch Anderson Cooper 360 with ads! All you get is a 10-minute per day preview live stream of CNN unless you can "login through your cable provider".

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moralestapia 5y ago
>the average CNN viewer does and I think might willing to pay $3/month for it No, that didn't happen, see [1] 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31111276 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31111276
- diputsmonro 5y ago
  Their point is that the average CNN viewer might be willing to pay for a service with different content. CNN+ did not serve the content they were referring to, so your flippant footnote does not apply.
hintymad 5y ago
Sounds a classic case of innovator's dilemma. The "classic" CNN simply wouldn't let CNN+ have all the resource they needed for that would hurt the cash cow of the "classic" CNN.

ericmay 5y ago

Well the market has spoken, you're right, Anderson Cooper (as far as I know) is a very popular show. It just also spoke in this specific context. I don't really care for CNN much either way, but every once in awhile somehow I get the "right" CNN International channel/vibe/show and it feels like what I thought international journalism should be.

kybernetyk 5y ago
Joe Rogan is far more popular and it’s free.
- ericmay 5y ago
  I'm not following your point
rayiner 5y ago
Anderson Cooper is 25th in the 8/9pm time slot with 1.25 million viewers on average. Tucker is 1st with 3.25 million.
WoodenChair 5y ago
> Anderson Cooper (as far as I know) is a very popular show No, it's not a very popular show. Anderson Cooper is last amongst the three major primetime cable news shows. For example, for the week ending March 30th at the 8 PM slot you have (Total Viewers in thousands) [0]: Tucker Carlson Tonight: 3676 All In W/ Chris Hayes: 1445 Anderson Cooper 360: 890 Now keep in mind that >300,000,000 people live in the United States. So, not that many people are watching cable news to begin with. And definitely not that many young people who may subscribe to a streaming service instead of cable. I don't think there is any sizable market for a streaming service of Anderson Cooper. 0: https://www.mediaite.com/daily-ratings/cable-news-ratings-wednesday-march-30-lawrence-odonnell-leads-msnbc-in-total-viewers/ https://www.mediaite.com/daily-ratings/cable-news-ratings-we...
- ericmay 5y ago
  It seems pretty popular to me. You're misconstruing "that's popular and people watch it" for "I agree with what the person is saying". Many people watch it. It makes money. Anderson Cooper makes money. Ergo the market is speaking quite clearly. For example, as vile, absolutely stupid, and wrong as Tucker Carlson is, the market is clearly speaking and he's quite popular. Now if you want to change your definition or raise your bar or something, sure go for it, but without any parameters I think anyone on prime time on CNN or any major news channel is by definition popular.

johndfsgdgdfg 5y ago

Yes, there are a lot of people whose identity is totally wrapped around politics. Got to Twitter. There are people who would spend hours on Twitter engaging in toxic fights with random people on internet. This is the reason I think reality TV shows have some utility for society. At least it lets people engage in something that is less harmful and less toxic than the Twitter culture war. It's better for society if people spend time on reality TV shows than Twitter culture war.