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> If he sells large amounts of tsla shares to buy twitter, this will be a negative signal Not necessarily. It's conceivable that TSLA shareholders could inter

> If he sells large amounts of tsla shares to buy twitter, this will be a negative signal Not necessarily. It's conceivable that TSLA shareholders could interpret Elon Musk acquiring more political influence as good for TSLA. The question would be whether Musk can use control of twitter to actually influence politics in favor of his other companies. I don't know if that would actually work, but I think it's conceivable that many of those who own TSLA might believe it will work.

NoOneNew 5y ago
You know... I have a feeling you might be the most right in this discussion.
111111101101 5y ago
> It's conceivable that TSLA shareholders could interpret Elon Musk acquiring more political influence as good for TSLA For that they would have to see through Musk's grift. Most retail TSLA holders are Musketeers and they truly believe that he is a visionary genius. To them, fluff like Twitter doesn't matter when they have the real life Tony Stark at the helm.
- robonerd 5y ago
  Believing Musk is a visionary genius scarcely seems inconsistent with believing Musk owning Twitter will be advantageous for Musk companies.
  - 111111101101 5y ago
    Genius doesn't need publicity. Its influence is inevitable.
    - robonerd 5y ago
      It doesn't seem very genius to fight with one hand tied behind your back just because you can.
    - MegaButts 5y ago
      I bet for every genius that becomes publicly known, there are at least 10 who are never heard publicly.
FerociousTimes 5y ago
Is Musk known really for his shrewd political skills and sharp maneuvers? If I were a Tesla shareholder and this was his actual masterplan to maximize value for shareholders, I'd unload my stake in a heartbeat because I know his brand and business holdings will got tainted by his politics like what happened with Trump, and the plan will most likely backfire and decimate his business empire.
- mehrdada 5y ago
  > If I were a Tesla shareholder and this was his actual masterplan to maximize value for shareholders Doesn’t have to be either-or. Marketing strategy is an important part of running Tesla and given the empirical dislike of media establishment of him, ensuring Twitter won’t go against him on a whim of the board seems strategically important. > business holdings will got tainted by his politics like what happened with Trump Is there data on Trump businesses doing materially worse overall after the taint? I assume the half of US that like him bolster it and the other half see the taint but the vector sum is material here.
  - matthewdgreen 5y ago
    Alternatively he stops being the whimsical "fun" billionaire that people find amusing, and starts being the tyrannical billionaire that people hate. This results in political backlash and a massive boycott of Tesla's consumer products. To be clear: Elon buying Twitter doesn't necessarily trigger any of this. Elon using that influence to actually push Twitter around in ways that are "useful" to Tesla shareholders potentially does. For Tesla shareholders I'd say the risk here is much higher than any possible reward.
    - robonerd 5y ago
      > For Tesla shareholders I'd say the risk here is much higher than any possible reward. I think that's probably right. But do those Tesla shareholders believe it?
    - mehrdada 5y ago

NoOneNew 5y ago

You know... I have a feeling you might be the most right in this discussion.

111111101101 5y ago

> It's conceivable that TSLA shareholders could interpret Elon Musk acquiring more political influence as good for TSLA For that they would have to see through Musk's grift. Most retail TSLA holders are Musketeers and they truly believe that he is a visionary genius. To them, fluff like Twitter doesn't matter when they have the real life Tony Stark at the helm.

robonerd 5y ago
Believing Musk is a visionary genius scarcely seems inconsistent with believing Musk owning Twitter will be advantageous for Musk companies.
- 111111101101 5y ago
  Genius doesn't need publicity. Its influence is inevitable.
  - robonerd 5y ago
    It doesn't seem very genius to fight with one hand tied behind your back just because you can.
  - MegaButts 5y ago
    I bet for every genius that becomes publicly known, there are at least 10 who are never heard publicly.

FerociousTimes 5y ago

Is Musk known really for his shrewd political skills and sharp maneuvers? If I were a Tesla shareholder and this was his actual masterplan to maximize value for shareholders, I'd unload my stake in a heartbeat because I know his brand and business holdings will got tainted by his politics like what happened with Trump, and the plan will most likely backfire and decimate his business empire.

mehrdada 5y ago
> If I were a Tesla shareholder and this was his actual masterplan to maximize value for shareholders Doesn’t have to be either-or. Marketing strategy is an important part of running Tesla and given the empirical dislike of media establishment of him, ensuring Twitter won’t go against him on a whim of the board seems strategically important. > business holdings will got tainted by his politics like what happened with Trump Is there data on Trump businesses doing materially worse overall after the taint? I assume the half of US that like him bolster it and the other half see the taint but the vector sum is material here.
- matthewdgreen 5y ago
  Alternatively he stops being the whimsical "fun" billionaire that people find amusing, and starts being the tyrannical billionaire that people hate. This results in political backlash and a massive boycott of Tesla's consumer products. To be clear: Elon buying Twitter doesn't necessarily trigger any of this. Elon using that influence to actually push Twitter around in ways that are "useful" to Tesla shareholders potentially does. For Tesla shareholders I'd say the risk here is much higher than any possible reward.
  - robonerd 5y ago
    > For Tesla shareholders I'd say the risk here is much higher than any possible reward. I think that's probably right. But do those Tesla shareholders believe it?
  - mehrdada 5y ago