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Yes, I can't wait to see the place I get real time news updates and tech discussions become a platform for Holocaust denial.
by saboot 4y ago
Yes, I can't wait to see the place I get real time news updates and tech discussions become a platform for Holocaust denial.
- mirceal 4y agoyes, but fReE SpEeCh! /s
- memish 4y agoIt's EASY to counter Holocaust deniers because there is so much evidence that it happened. It's like debating flat earthers. No problem. Why be threatened by things that are easily debunked in day light? It's not hard to defeat bad ideas with good ideas. Or you can just ignore it by turning off the channel. That's always an option.
- rootusrootus 4y ago> It's not hard to defeat bad ideas with good ideas. That's a load of crap. You cannot debate with conspiracy theorists. Debates only work when both sides are acting in good faith.
- mirceal 4y agohuh. this naive approach is cute. but here is the thing: the amount of effort required to refute bullshit is at least an order of magnitude higher than the effort required to produce it. we don’t have unlimited time an unlimited attention spans. we also deal with uneducated, easily manipulated people that will just discard anything that does not match their world view and just amplify the bs.
- memish 4y agoCorrect. No one can deal with all that shit. But it's distributed. You can ignore most of it, or all of it if you want. There are plenty of us autists to overwhelm it. Sending Flat Earthers off to their own dark corner is how they become entrenched. Leave them in the public square, in broad daylight, so they are exposed to evidence to the contrary. That's how you defeat bad ideas over time.
- mrtranscendence 4y agoEmpirically, that doesn’t work. Bringing misinformation into the public square simply allows it to spread. It’s almost immune to “evidence to the contrary”, at least for those who are apt to believe misinformation and conspiracy theories.
- sneak 4y agoEmpirically, the church is still here, and yet we mostly now hold heliocentric beliefs. We didn't need to censor anyone to get here. On longer timescales, the truth wins, because it is real, and everything else is not. False beliefs are persistent but simply can't compete with reality.
- mirceal 4y agothis approach of letting people air bs and having them be shamed by the level-headed individuals may work if the people airing the bs are just misinformed but are open to a discussion and changing their mind. a lot of people, on the internet, are not open to this and will chose the bs over any fact, argument, reason.
- saboot 4y agoIt puts the burden on me as a user to combat all the nonsense. I'll pass. And I'm sure many others will too.
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- mikkergp 4y agoThe problem is that those ideas spread because it’s not in most peoples best interest to challenge them intellectually. It’s in their self interest to promote that material because it feels good emotionally.
- sergiotapia 4y agoThat's some sick shit but I can't see why Twitter cannot allow you to block that garbage from YOUR perspective. I want personal controls for my content.