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This site lists 100 federal employees earning 400k+ https://www.federalpay.org/employees/top-100 https://www.federalpay.org/employees/top-100 Even ignoring th

This site lists 100 federal employees earning 400k+ https://www.federalpay.org/employees/top-100 https://www.federalpay.org/employees/top-100 Even ignoring those searching through different departments shows plenty earning over 174k -- Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau (6), Immediate Office of the Secretary of Education (8), Maritime Administration (34), etc. (Of course then there's state employees where PE Teachers get multi-million salaries)

pc86 4y ago
Lots to unpack here. These are all medical officers. I hope I don't need to justify a physician making more than a developer. And if you look at the averages,[0] these folks are still making less than they would in the private sector. What state PE teachers are making multi-million dollar salaries? I hope you're not conflating huge D1 coaching programs with "PE teacher." [0] https://www.federalpay.org/employees/occupations/medical-officer https://www.federalpay.org/employees/occupations/medical-off...
- ipaddr 4y ago
  A physician only impacts the limited patients they see where a developer can impact millions and a team leader can impact many developers who impact millions. Using common logic we see in the field on why ic should be paid lower than team leaders.
  - Ancapistani 4y ago
    First, "physician" is not equivalent to "practicing doctor in a clinical setting". Second, a good physician - even a run-of-the-mill family doctor - should be collaborating with their peers. They're keeping up to date on new practices and informing the next generation of those practices by reporting observations of the results of today's practices and any anomalies that arise. I don't think it's unreasonable for some developers to make more than most physicians or for most physicians to make more than most developers. Neither field is narrowly defined.
    - ipaddr 4y ago
      A typical licensed physician is a run of the mill family doctor or walk-in clinic doctor. I can assure you they are spending however many hours required to keep their license but are not keeping upto date on the latest practices. They are sending people to labs where data is generated that can be used by the next generation but we are not paying lab workers 1/2 a million.
- iso1210 4y ago
  The claim was no federal employee earns more than X The proof was a list of federal employees earning more than X
HWR_14 4y ago
That list of 78 (not 100) making over 400k are administrator/doctors who work for the VA (except Fauci). The VA does have it's own pay scale for medical professionals - it's a legal limit not a constitutional one and the VA has it's own rules. Administrators who are Senate approved can also get exemptions to the salary cap.
- iso1210 4y ago
  Those are 2020 wages, it's fair to assume they've had at least a 0.1% pay rise since then There are plenty of non-doctors earning over 174k too. (Average doctor salary in Canada is USD140k btw)

pc86 4y ago

Lots to unpack here. These are all medical officers. I hope I don't need to justify a physician making more than a developer. And if you look at the averages,[0] these folks are still making less than they would in the private sector. What state PE teachers are making multi-million dollar salaries? I hope you're not conflating huge D1 coaching programs with "PE teacher." [0] https://www.federalpay.org/employees/occupations/medical-officer https://www.federalpay.org/employees/occupations/medical-off...

ipaddr 4y ago
A physician only impacts the limited patients they see where a developer can impact millions and a team leader can impact many developers who impact millions. Using common logic we see in the field on why ic should be paid lower than team leaders.
- Ancapistani 4y ago
  First, "physician" is not equivalent to "practicing doctor in a clinical setting". Second, a good physician - even a run-of-the-mill family doctor - should be collaborating with their peers. They're keeping up to date on new practices and informing the next generation of those practices by reporting observations of the results of today's practices and any anomalies that arise. I don't think it's unreasonable for some developers to make more than most physicians or for most physicians to make more than most developers. Neither field is narrowly defined.
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    A typical licensed physician is a run of the mill family doctor or walk-in clinic doctor. I can assure you they are spending however many hours required to keep their license but are not keeping upto date on the latest practices. They are sending people to labs where data is generated that can be used by the next generation but we are not paying lab workers 1/2 a million.
iso1210 4y ago
The claim was no federal employee earns more than X The proof was a list of federal employees earning more than X

HWR_14 4y ago

That list of 78 (not 100) making over 400k are administrator/doctors who work for the VA (except Fauci). The VA does have it's own pay scale for medical professionals - it's a legal limit not a constitutional one and the VA has it's own rules. Administrators who are Senate approved can also get exemptions to the salary cap.

iso1210 4y ago
Those are 2020 wages, it's fair to assume they've had at least a 0.1% pay rise since then There are plenty of non-doctors earning over 174k too. (Average doctor salary in Canada is USD140k btw)