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If a private corporation releasing an update to its code base to allow its own service to keep working brings us into WWIII... the root cause of the WWIII is de

If a private corporation releasing an update to its code base to allow its own service to keep working brings us into WWIII... the root cause of the WWIII is definitely not the code update.

blenderdt 4y ago
And that is the point. Elon sent starlink terminals to the Ukraine because of the war.
- pmorici 4y ago
  They had been trying to launch Starlink service there since before the war and the government was dragging their feet on regulatory approval. The war caused the government to rethink that.
  - blenderdt 4y ago
    Rethink as in: "@elonmusk , while you try to colonize Mars — Russia try to occupy Ukraine! While your rockets successfully land from space — Russian rockets attack Ukrainian civil people! We ask you to provide Ukraine with Starlink stations and to address sane Russians to stand." https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1497701484003213317 https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/14977014840032133...
LeifCarrotson 4y ago
Root cause analysis in software postmortems and in business is important, but knowing the root cause that initiated WWIII is only really useful to understand in hopes of preventing WWIV. It's irrelevant whether a private corporation software update or the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand causes a world war to break out, it must be avoided.
- johnthewise 4y ago
  with that reasoning, everything can cause ww3.
throwaway1492 4y ago
Exactly, this bizarre blaming the victim for provoking more violence from the aggressor is pernicious and ill conceived imo. But they might go nuclear or attack the NATO/US! Maniacs will do what maniacs do, that genie is out of the bottle. Countries have a right to control their airspace, countries have the right to acquire military equipment as they please. Invaders do not get to dictate that.
- candiodari 4y ago
  We should be careful of outright demonizing Putin. He's not just a monster and he can be reasoned with. Maybe he even has some legitimate grievances (or at least things we might choose to accomodate to avoid ...) Perhaps we can to have systems, like the "we're testing an ICBM" system we have in place, to avoid escalations that will draw us into WW3. There must a way to get a reasoned, thoughtful and cooperative answer to this question. For example, let's say we place 5 test satellites in orbit and if you shoot one (?) of those down, you get to request blocking internet service in a geographical region, without escalating things into a space war.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    That may have been the case in the past, but today he's just a monster. He had his chance at statesmanship and royally messed it up and the sooner the mad dog is put down the better and then we have to hope that the next dog won't be madder. I wonder if we'll ever see a world where Russia plays nice and stays nice.
    - radmuzom 4y ago
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paganel 4y ago
We'd still be in WWIII.

If a private corporation releasing an update to its code base to allow its own service to keep working brings us into WWIII... the root cause of the WWIII is definitely not the code update.

blenderdt 4y ago

And that is the point. Elon sent starlink terminals to the Ukraine because of the war.

pmorici 4y ago
They had been trying to launch Starlink service there since before the war and the government was dragging their feet on regulatory approval. The war caused the government to rethink that.
- blenderdt 4y ago
  Rethink as in: "@elonmusk , while you try to colonize Mars — Russia try to occupy Ukraine! While your rockets successfully land from space — Russian rockets attack Ukrainian civil people! We ask you to provide Ukraine with Starlink stations and to address sane Russians to stand." https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1497701484003213317 https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/14977014840032133...

LeifCarrotson 4y ago

Root cause analysis in software postmortems and in business is important, but knowing the root cause that initiated WWIII is only really useful to understand in hopes of preventing WWIV. It's irrelevant whether a private corporation software update or the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand causes a world war to break out, it must be avoided.

johnthewise 4y ago
with that reasoning, everything can cause ww3.

throwaway1492 4y ago

Exactly, this bizarre blaming the victim for provoking more violence from the aggressor is pernicious and ill conceived imo. But they might go nuclear or attack the NATO/US! Maniacs will do what maniacs do, that genie is out of the bottle. Countries have a right to control their airspace, countries have the right to acquire military equipment as they please. Invaders do not get to dictate that.

candiodari 4y ago
We should be careful of outright demonizing Putin. He's not just a monster and he can be reasoned with. Maybe he even has some legitimate grievances (or at least things we might choose to accomodate to avoid ...) Perhaps we can to have systems, like the "we're testing an ICBM" system we have in place, to avoid escalations that will draw us into WW3. There must a way to get a reasoned, thoughtful and cooperative answer to this question. For example, let's say we place 5 test satellites in orbit and if you shoot one (?) of those down, you get to request blocking internet service in a geographical region, without escalating things into a space war.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  That may have been the case in the past, but today he's just a monster. He had his chance at statesmanship and royally messed it up and the sooner the mad dog is put down the better and then we have to hope that the next dog won't be madder. I wonder if we'll ever see a world where Russia plays nice and stays nice.
  - radmuzom 4y ago
    - dang 4y ago
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paganel 4y ago

We'd still be in WWIII.