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Ask HN: How different is it to make an Android app vs. an Apple app?

• metaloha 4y ago
  In teams I've worked on recently, it's been less of a "which is easier" and more of "what percentage of our customers would we reach". Worldwide, Android phone significantly outnumber iPhones, but in Canada and the US, the split is pretty close to 50/50. At that point we would probably go with the platform the majority of the team is more comfortable with unless there was a specific business reason for going with a specific platform first.
• matt321 4y ago
  IF a developer team his mostly iphones they will do that one first I bet. Thats how I have seen it done usually. The problem is that if most non standard use cases (like bluetooth) support are garbage in cross platform tools. So I have to make two mobile apps: one for iphone and one for android. I have an iPhone so I making that one first. If its not that popular, maybe I just dont make an android app.
  • taurusnoises 4y ago
    Get it. Is there a general vibe in the dev world of like, "ugh, now we have to make the Android version..."
    • smoldesu 4y ago
      Not neccesarily? If you start with an Android app, the sentiment tends to go both ways. There's simply no good cross-platform mobile toolkits.
      • skydhash 4y ago
        React Native and Flutter is fine if you want to do information app (backed by a backend for most of the work), but as soon as you want to tap into the native capabilities of the device, the difference can become too much. Those toolkits rely on being able to find a common ground between the two ecosystems, and sometimes that can be a hindrance.
• patatino 4y ago
  Apple user spend more money, I always guessed that's the reason.
• rkangel 4y ago
  The received wisdom was that for many years it was easier to make money from Apple customers. Despite the fact that there were fewer iPhones compared to Androids the theory was that iPhone customers tended to have more money and were willing to spend to get things. The Android ecosystem was also much larger and you had to test on more phones to get confidence in the performance of your app across the customer base. So from a developer point of view, you're solving a simpler problem for more money. In practice actually iPhone 'fragmentation' is surprisingly bad in terms of how UIs would render unexpectedly on different phones - still probably easier than Android but levels the playing field a bit more, Android market share grew and went more upmarket, cross platform frameworks improved and the whole practice has become less common.
  • casralad 4y ago
    >cross platform frameworks improved No serious mobile application is built with a cross platform framework. It's a development strategy that relies on the product being "good enough". Please prove me wrong. I would love to see counter-examples.
    • rkangel 4y ago
      Facebook and Discord are built using React Native. Ebay is built using Flutter. These examples are easy to find on the homepages of the respective frameworks. I agree that for the large technology companies having a team to build a native app for both platforms is worth it - you get an optimised, native feeling experience for both platforms. For smaller companies with e.g. two developers building an app as part of a larger service then the cross platform frameworks can give you a lot of bang for your buck. They're also a good starting point to get something out, and then if you wish you can begin to incrementally replace bits with native if that's beneficial. Personally I'm also a big Flutter fan. Even leaving aside the cross platform benefits I find it a very pleasant development experience that gives very predictable results on whatever it ends up running on. I haven't yet properly used Swift UI though, which adopts a similar approach.
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• duster 4y ago
  Because Java.
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• kderbyma 4y ago
  Apple ecosystem is contained....so it's easier to just build without looking up. but.... it's also a catch....you spend more money to develop for apple, so you need money.....hence....you bleed your customers who will 'pay more'.... trusth is.... just as many failures....
• thenerdhead 4y ago
  It's less about technical issue, more about market opportunity and what you know tech wise. There's a common idea that App Store devs make much more money than Google Play Store. The iOS app store has had much more visibility for paid apps as well. Another way to think about it is that people spend thousands on a new iPhone, they are more likely to spend on apps. There's plenty of data to help confirm that idea such as revenue from apps in each store and even income levels. From a personal perspective whenever I survey users about what platform they prefer to have a mobile app for with my side projects, it's like 80/20 iOS/Android. When asked if they are willing to pay, it's even more telling that Android users are more likely to not want to pay. Speaking as someone who built a cross platform framework for a living and survived a major acquisition of that tech to a big tech company and worked in the ecosystem for many years, I believe that although Android may have more devices made and distributed in the world than iOS, it's a much harder market to make money in as a developer. As an existing business, you have to be in the market however. Nowadays you need apps on both stores, but if you do choose one, do iOS first unless you have a background for Android. There's many cross platform frameworks that can help you do both with one codebase, but if you go native, start iOS in my opinion if you need to make money to survive.
• billylo 4y ago
  I wrote down my comparison here. Hope this helps. https://billylo.medium.com/ep-19-is-android-app-dev-easier-or-harder-than-ios-app-dev-ad326065b8e https://billylo.medium.com/ep-19-is-android-app-dev-easier-o...
• koenvdb 4y ago
  I think one reason is that there aren't that many unique Apple devices compared to unique Android devices. There are tons of different hardware combinations in Android, making it harder to create a good app, UI/UX wise.