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This is literally not an option - systems have shipped without BIOS compatibility for a long time now, so refusing to support UEFI is just not an option.

by mjg59 5y ago

blueflow 5y ago
- mjg59 5y ago
  I don't think that's going to result in everyone shipping UEFI without BIOS compatibility suddenly changing their mind.
  - blueflow 5y ago
adrian_b 5y ago
Except for some embedded computers with Atom CPUs and some enterprise-oriented laptops, I have not seen any systems without legacy BIOS compatibility. Nevertheless, the option to enable the legacy BIOS booting can be quite hard to find in the BIOS menus, which may deceive many into believing that a system does not support legacy BIOS booting, even when it actually does support it. On work computers belonging to a company, the BIOS configuration may be locked, so it might not be possible for the users to enable legacy BIOS booting.
- doubled112 5y ago
  I have a couple of AMD ASUS Vivobooks that don’t have CSM/BIOS boot available Never noticed until I wanted to boot memtest. It’s possible that I missed it, but Google results didn’t look promising either.
- eklitzke 5y ago
  From the article: > Intel stopped shipping the last vestiges of BIOS support in 2020 (as have other vendors, and Apple and Microsoft), so this is clearly the way things are heading - and therefore aligns with Fedora's "First" objective. You may not have seen many computers yet without legacy BIOS compatibility but this is going to be the norm for new computers very soon.
  - adrian_b 5y ago
    The last new PC that I have seen, and which still had legacy BIOS booting support, was a Dell laptop purchased in Q2 2021. However, it was a model launched in the second half of 2020. It is indeed possible that the models introduced since 2021 might omit the legacy BIOS booting support.

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This is literally not an option - systems have shipped without BIOS compatibility for a long time now, so refusing to support UEFI is just not an option.

by mjg59 5y ago

This is literally not an option - systems have shipped without BIOS compatibility for a long time now, so refusing to support UEFI is just not an option.

blueflow 5y ago
- mjg59 5y ago
  I don't think that's going to result in everyone shipping UEFI without BIOS compatibility suddenly changing their mind.
  - blueflow 5y ago
adrian_b 5y ago
Except for some embedded computers with Atom CPUs and some enterprise-oriented laptops, I have not seen any systems without legacy BIOS compatibility. Nevertheless, the option to enable the legacy BIOS booting can be quite hard to find in the BIOS menus, which may deceive many into believing that a system does not support legacy BIOS booting, even when it actually does support it. On work computers belonging to a company, the BIOS configuration may be locked, so it might not be possible for the users to enable legacy BIOS booting.
- doubled112 5y ago
  I have a couple of AMD ASUS Vivobooks that don’t have CSM/BIOS boot available Never noticed until I wanted to boot memtest. It’s possible that I missed it, but Google results didn’t look promising either.
- eklitzke 5y ago
  From the article: > Intel stopped shipping the last vestiges of BIOS support in 2020 (as have other vendors, and Apple and Microsoft), so this is clearly the way things are heading - and therefore aligns with Fedora's "First" objective. You may not have seen many computers yet without legacy BIOS compatibility but this is going to be the norm for new computers very soon.
  - adrian_b 5y ago
    The last new PC that I have seen, and which still had legacy BIOS booting support, was a Dell laptop purchased in Q2 2021. However, it was a model launched in the second half of 2020. It is indeed possible that the models introduced since 2021 might omit the legacy BIOS booting support.