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“Son of Sam” laws in the US prohibit individuals from publicly profiting off their crimes.

by xattt 5y ago

bin_bash 5y ago
Then demonetize it, don’t remove it.
- xattt 5y ago
  I might be missing the point, but I’m not getting this glorification of stupid acts.
  - xboxnolifes 5y ago
    The existence of something is not glorifying it.
  - MauranKilom 5y ago
    How is "treat this video like any other video" (i.e. do nothing) a "glorification"? There are tons of videos of incredibly stupid and dangerous acts on YouTube.
  - mannykannot 5y ago
    It is annoying to see idiots get a lot of attention, but really, it is not a glorification of a stupid act, it is just a video of one. Furthermore, it would live on in all of those videos that point out just how stupid it was, unless Youtube also removes those - but they are informative, I would say.
  - jaywalk 5y ago
    What glorification? This is a thing that happened, and it's incredibly newsworthy. Prevent him from profiting off the video and leave it up. There is no reason to do anything further from YouTube's perspective.
  - ineedasername 5y ago
    I'm generally in favor of idiots that do illegal things then posting video evidence of them online. I don't think it glorifies the act if YouTube then demonetized the video with a note & link back to the FAA's ruling. Showing stupid things & their consequences seems reasonable.
    - Beldin 5y ago
      Would you feel the same if this became the top watched video for weeks, with a lively comment section mostly leaning towards "omg that is so cool! I want to top this!!!"? I wouldn't - which is why I don't mind if it's taken down.
      - ineedasername 5y ago
        I'm hesitant to advocate taking something down. I'm not saying it should never happen, but this doesn't cross the threshold for me. In this instance the video creator wasn't encouraging people to do this and the audience response wasn't to jump in and do the same thing. Also videos that would fit this category-- filmed evidence of illegal activity & subsequent consequences (which I think Google should add to the video)-- are not likely to become popular in the thought experiment you describe. If they did, maybe I'd revisit my opinion. On the other hand, if content is encouraging people to do harmful or dangerous things then that becomes a different issue. I'm less uncomfortable with YouTube trying to stop Tide Pod Challenge videos which were basically encouraging such activity: The first two weeks of 2018 saw about as many poisoning reports from this as most entire years before then. [1] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220412042754/https://time.com/5104225/tide-pod-challenge/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220412042754/https://time.com/...
pas 5y ago
That doesn't mean the video has to be taken off. Simply collect the ill-gotten gains from the perpetrator. The video seems like evidence anyway, should be part of the public record.
mensetmanusman 5y ago
YouTube hosts lots of crime that gets monetized.
lupire 5y ago
That's at least 90% false in law and practice. https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1242/son-of-sam-laws https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1242/son-of-sam-law...
- zinekeller 5y ago
  Very good for actually researching and not just commenting because of raw emotions. Honestly a breath of fresh air to be honest.
- jrochkind1 5y ago
  Plus... he has yet to be charged with, let alone convicted of, a crime?

“Son of Sam” laws in the US prohibit individuals from publicly profiting off their crimes.

by xattt 5y ago

“Son of Sam” laws in the US prohibit individuals from publicly profiting off their crimes.

bin_bash 5y ago

Then demonetize it, don’t remove it.

xattt 5y ago
I might be missing the point, but I’m not getting this glorification of stupid acts.
- xboxnolifes 5y ago
  The existence of something is not glorifying it.
- MauranKilom 5y ago
  How is "treat this video like any other video" (i.e. do nothing) a "glorification"? There are tons of videos of incredibly stupid and dangerous acts on YouTube.
- mannykannot 5y ago
  It is annoying to see idiots get a lot of attention, but really, it is not a glorification of a stupid act, it is just a video of one. Furthermore, it would live on in all of those videos that point out just how stupid it was, unless Youtube also removes those - but they are informative, I would say.
- jaywalk 5y ago
  What glorification? This is a thing that happened, and it's incredibly newsworthy. Prevent him from profiting off the video and leave it up. There is no reason to do anything further from YouTube's perspective.
- ineedasername 5y ago
  I'm generally in favor of idiots that do illegal things then posting video evidence of them online. I don't think it glorifies the act if YouTube then demonetized the video with a note & link back to the FAA's ruling. Showing stupid things & their consequences seems reasonable.
  - Beldin 5y ago
    Would you feel the same if this became the top watched video for weeks, with a lively comment section mostly leaning towards "omg that is so cool! I want to top this!!!"? I wouldn't - which is why I don't mind if it's taken down.
    - ineedasername 5y ago
      I'm hesitant to advocate taking something down. I'm not saying it should never happen, but this doesn't cross the threshold for me. In this instance the video creator wasn't encouraging people to do this and the audience response wasn't to jump in and do the same thing. Also videos that would fit this category-- filmed evidence of illegal activity & subsequent consequences (which I think Google should add to the video)-- are not likely to become popular in the thought experiment you describe. If they did, maybe I'd revisit my opinion. On the other hand, if content is encouraging people to do harmful or dangerous things then that becomes a different issue. I'm less uncomfortable with YouTube trying to stop Tide Pod Challenge videos which were basically encouraging such activity: The first two weeks of 2018 saw about as many poisoning reports from this as most entire years before then. [1] [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220412042754/https://time.com/5104225/tide-pod-challenge/ https://web.archive.org/web/20220412042754/https://time.com/...

pas 5y ago

That doesn't mean the video has to be taken off. Simply collect the ill-gotten gains from the perpetrator. The video seems like evidence anyway, should be part of the public record.

mensetmanusman 5y ago

YouTube hosts lots of crime that gets monetized.

lupire 5y ago

That's at least 90% false in law and practice. https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1242/son-of-sam-laws https://mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/1242/son-of-sam-law...

zinekeller 5y ago
Very good for actually researching and not just commenting because of raw emotions. Honestly a breath of fresh air to be honest.
jrochkind1 5y ago
Plus... he has yet to be charged with, let alone convicted of, a crime?