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I don't know why anyone is surprised. The edgy subreddits (many of which were toxic cesspools) all warned everyone as they got banned, but people cheered as it

I don't know why anyone is surprised. The edgy subreddits (many of which were toxic cesspools) all warned everyone as they got banned, but people cheered as it happened. Finally the baddies were gone. It was never going to be limited to just them. On another note, I do not understand why all these banned subreddits that try to migrate to their own site always try to create their own software. the_donald did it famously and created an absolute clusterfuck of a website (and community). There are so many options, there's open source old reddit, there's federating varieties like Lemmy and littr.me (a good choice if you want to run a single community), why reinvent the wheel? If you want to move to an environment like reddit where everyone can interact, but give community moderators full control over their communities, a federated architecture is the way to go, and there are a couple of solutions that work out of the box.

dwroberts 5y ago
Most of these 'edgy' subreddits just normalise bullying. I think it's actually a good thing for the internet that they are pushed off the platform to somewhere less mainstream.
- postsantum 5y ago
  One of the most recent high-profile bans was served to /r/menkampf which existed to call out bullies. "Normalizing" is just another un-word in the long string of ways to say "I don't like it but I have no arguments"
  - dwroberts 5y ago
    Normalizing means you make something normal. Reddit skews younger, and if the site mainly hosts subs that harass or bully, that's what their audience will see and probably the example they will follow: "Oh this is what we do on this site" > /r/menkampf which existed to call out bullies. You mean the sub that took sentences with the word 'white' in them and switched them for 'Jewish' supposedly to 'call out hypocrisy'. "Call out bullies"? Come on...
    - postsantum 5y ago
      Hitler memes don't make people accept nazi ideology. I wish we could invent new words on demand like it happened with "normalizing". Happy hitlering, everyone! Yes, I really think that subs of that kind expose race-mongers who think they are on the right side of the history. Another example is StormfrontOrSJW which is still somehow up
nicce 5y ago
Long live the MyBB et al.
corobo 5y ago
First thread I saw on their new site was "n-word pass" and a comment section full of people who really like using the word I don't think we're out of the edgy subreddit territory yet lol, reddit can turn this crank a few more times before they get any real backlash I reckon e: Popped back to double check it wasn't just a moderation miss, that thread's a good 5h old and the thread below "I fucking hate gay people"
ohgodplsno 5y ago
First they came for the edgelords Then they came for the racists And in the end they didn't come for me because I don't spew hate on forums, nor am I the one user in two million that gets shadowbanned for saying death to jews
- _8j50 5y ago
  You would think being an ass was a human right the way some people whine.
  - rchaud 5y ago
    "You're denying me entry on the basis of my past behaviour at your establishment? This is censorship!" /s
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  I remember when you could say just about any hateful thing on YouTube you wanted, but no lesbians kissing. I get your point, but reddit will sanitize their site for advertising revenue, and it will become a much less interesting place. I understand people wanting to get rid of jailbait and hate subs, but the fact is that you don't have to look at them if you don't want to, and it doesn't ever end with the obvious bad shit. If they'd just stop there I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.
  - ohgodplsno 5y ago
    You don't have to look at festering wounds either. They're here and they're actively damaging, but I'm sure that if you close your eyes it's nothing bad.
    - betwixthewires 5y ago
      I didn't mean to hit a nerve. The hyperbole though with this response, that analogy doesn't apply. What other people think and say to each other isn't my business, and no amount of fearmongering is going to convince me otherwise.
fffe 5y ago
> On another note, I do not understand why all these banned subreddits that try to migrate to their own site always try to create their own software. Not all. The admins of Ovarit [1] decided to use Throat [2] rather than roll their own from scratch. Their fork [3] has had various customizations added over time, but it largely follows the upstream. By all accounts, this arrangement is working very well for them. [1] https://ovarit.com https://ovarit.com [2] https://github.com/Phuks-co/throat https://github.com/Phuks-co/throat [3] https://gitlab.com/feminist-conspiracy/throat https://gitlab.com/feminist-conspiracy/throat
dataengineer56 5y ago
> On another note, I do not understand why all these banned subreddits that try to migrate to their own site always try to create their own software They haven't - they're using https://github.com/Aevann1/rDrama https://github.com/Aevann1/rDrama which has already been used successfully for /r/drama's offsite community. They've worked directly with rdrama's developer and community lead.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  Well that's interesting, I have to take a look at the codebase and see what it is all about. Edit:looked at it, it looks like a Ruqqus fork built for single community servers. https://github.com/ruqqus/ruqqus https://github.com/ruqqus/ruqqus Looks like pretty good software, from a first glance it looks like it has more sensible UX than Ruqqus.

dwroberts 5y ago

Most of these 'edgy' subreddits just normalise bullying. I think it's actually a good thing for the internet that they are pushed off the platform to somewhere less mainstream.

postsantum 5y ago
One of the most recent high-profile bans was served to /r/menkampf which existed to call out bullies. "Normalizing" is just another un-word in the long string of ways to say "I don't like it but I have no arguments"
- dwroberts 5y ago
  Normalizing means you make something normal. Reddit skews younger, and if the site mainly hosts subs that harass or bully, that's what their audience will see and probably the example they will follow: "Oh this is what we do on this site" > /r/menkampf which existed to call out bullies. You mean the sub that took sentences with the word 'white' in them and switched them for 'Jewish' supposedly to 'call out hypocrisy'. "Call out bullies"? Come on...
  - postsantum 5y ago
    Hitler memes don't make people accept nazi ideology. I wish we could invent new words on demand like it happened with "normalizing". Happy hitlering, everyone! Yes, I really think that subs of that kind expose race-mongers who think they are on the right side of the history. Another example is StormfrontOrSJW which is still somehow up

nicce 5y ago

Long live the MyBB et al.

corobo 5y ago

First thread I saw on their new site was "n-word pass" and a comment section full of people who really like using the word I don't think we're out of the edgy subreddit territory yet lol, reddit can turn this crank a few more times before they get any real backlash I reckon e: Popped back to double check it wasn't just a moderation miss, that thread's a good 5h old and the thread below "I fucking hate gay people"

ohgodplsno 5y ago

First they came for the edgelords Then they came for the racists And in the end they didn't come for me because I don't spew hate on forums, nor am I the one user in two million that gets shadowbanned for saying death to jews

_8j50 5y ago
You would think being an ass was a human right the way some people whine.
- rchaud 5y ago
  "You're denying me entry on the basis of my past behaviour at your establishment? This is censorship!" /s
betwixthewires 5y ago
I remember when you could say just about any hateful thing on YouTube you wanted, but no lesbians kissing. I get your point, but reddit will sanitize their site for advertising revenue, and it will become a much less interesting place. I understand people wanting to get rid of jailbait and hate subs, but the fact is that you don't have to look at them if you don't want to, and it doesn't ever end with the obvious bad shit. If they'd just stop there I wouldn't have a problem with it at all.
- ohgodplsno 5y ago
  You don't have to look at festering wounds either. They're here and they're actively damaging, but I'm sure that if you close your eyes it's nothing bad.
  - betwixthewires 5y ago
    I didn't mean to hit a nerve. The hyperbole though with this response, that analogy doesn't apply. What other people think and say to each other isn't my business, and no amount of fearmongering is going to convince me otherwise.

fffe 5y ago

> On another note, I do not understand why all these banned subreddits that try to migrate to their own site always try to create their own software. Not all. The admins of Ovarit [1] decided to use Throat [2] rather than roll their own from scratch. Their fork [3] has had various customizations added over time, but it largely follows the upstream. By all accounts, this arrangement is working very well for them. [1] https://ovarit.com https://ovarit.com [2] https://github.com/Phuks-co/throat https://github.com/Phuks-co/throat [3] https://gitlab.com/feminist-conspiracy/throat https://gitlab.com/feminist-conspiracy/throat

dataengineer56 5y ago

> On another note, I do not understand why all these banned subreddits that try to migrate to their own site always try to create their own software They haven't - they're using https://github.com/Aevann1/rDrama https://github.com/Aevann1/rDrama which has already been used successfully for /r/drama's offsite community. They've worked directly with rdrama's developer and community lead.

betwixthewires 5y ago
Well that's interesting, I have to take a look at the codebase and see what it is all about. Edit:looked at it, it looks like a Ruqqus fork built for single community servers. https://github.com/ruqqus/ruqqus https://github.com/ruqqus/ruqqus Looks like pretty good software, from a first glance it looks like it has more sensible UX than Ruqqus.