> C++ Builder compiles C++, thus it is C++. By your definition. > I will never understand why clang and GCC extensions are considered part of C or C++, while

> C++ Builder compiles C++, thus it is C++. By your definition. > I will never understand why clang and GCC extensions are considered part of C or C++, while other compilers aren't. Didn't say so. > Refactoring exists for 20 years in Visual Studio with plugins like Visual Assist. That one is new for me. Didn't know it. Would love to have it not locked to a single proprietary non multi-platform IDE. > The tools I mentioned as ahead of their time allowed for a Lisp Machines or Smalltalk like experience for C++, respectively. And they didn't succeed, become popular and were mostly completely unreachable to the sporadic hobbyist.