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I know who Guido van Rossum is. I have no idea who those three are.

tshaddox 4y ago
Just to be clear, there's very little you (or any readers) ought to conclude from the fact that you know who Guido van Rossum is but are unaware of those other people.
- faitswulff 4y ago
  Just to be clear, I have no idea who those people are or what their accomplishments are, but I do know and trust Guido's 1) intellect, and 2) judgment, so I'm inclined to trust a known factor over three unknown ones. And he's known for good reason. Reputation is a thing. I figure I'm not alone.
  - __s 4y ago
    There's much better arguments for/against crypto than appeals to authority. Consequently, you then cited an appeal to majority to defend your appeal to authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum Granted, the crypto debate on HN is pretty well hashed & Guido's tweet doesn't add anything to the discussion besides making clear where he stands on the issue
    - faitswulff 4y ago
      I don't care about logical fallacies in this case because the world doesn't work in a purely logical way. If programming was purely logical, it wouldn't be so fad-driven, for instance. And reputation ends up being one of the best ways to filter out useless noise in basically every useful discovery system we programmers have come up with.
  - BeetleB 4y ago
    > Just to be clear, I have no idea who those people are or what their accomplishments are, but I do know and trust Guido's 1) intellect, and 2) judgment This is a classic example of the Halo Effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect). I trust his intellect and judgment for Python, and that's it. I don't trust him for programming in general, for example, let alone a completely different arena.

Just to be clear, there's very little you (or any readers) ought to conclude from the fact that you know who Guido van Rossum is but are unaware of those other people.

faitswulff 4y ago
Just to be clear, I have no idea who those people are or what their accomplishments are, but I do know and trust Guido's 1) intellect, and 2) judgment, so I'm inclined to trust a known factor over three unknown ones. And he's known for good reason. Reputation is a thing. I figure I'm not alone.
- __s 4y ago
  There's much better arguments for/against crypto than appeals to authority. Consequently, you then cited an appeal to majority to defend your appeal to authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum Granted, the crypto debate on HN is pretty well hashed & Guido's tweet doesn't add anything to the discussion besides making clear where he stands on the issue
  - faitswulff 4y ago
    I don't care about logical fallacies in this case because the world doesn't work in a purely logical way. If programming was purely logical, it wouldn't be so fad-driven, for instance. And reputation ends up being one of the best ways to filter out useless noise in basically every useful discovery system we programmers have come up with.
- BeetleB 4y ago
  > Just to be clear, I have no idea who those people are or what their accomplishments are, but I do know and trust Guido's 1) intellect, and 2) judgment This is a classic example of the Halo Effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect). I trust his intellect and judgment for Python, and that's it. I don't trust him for programming in general, for example, let alone a completely different arena.