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AFAIK, most kurds feel excited to be part of Turkey.

by m00dy 5y ago

notch656a 5y ago
Maybe we met different Kurds. I met a lot in Iraq and Syria and most of the ones I met balked at even having to speak Turkish (even if they could speak fluently), let alone be part of the country. I imagine some of the ones I met were blown apart by Turkish forces some time after I left Rojava.
- m00dy 5y ago
  I'm a white Turk, 1,87cm in height, with green eyes, and I am socially accepted even in the nordic Europe peninsula. Guess what? My sister is getting married to a Kurdish guy, and I will be visiting the Kurdish-dominated part of Turkey this summer for the wedding. I will be able to tell you whether Kurds are bad or good firsthand, and also, I can't wait to load up a bunch of AK-47s and hand generates and shoot them over the sky during the wedding ceremony. xD
bitcharmer 5y ago
This statement is on the same level of nonsense as saying the Ukrainians are thrilled to host their Russian neighbours presently.
- thriftwy 5y ago
  But the other way around, since russians are Ukraine's kurds. The number 2 ethnicity that nobody ever talked about.
  - pdabbadabba 5y ago
    That comparison might make some sense if Kurdistan were a enormous global power and shared a huge land border with Turkey. When in fact, Kurdistan [checks atlas] does not exist at all as an independent country, much less a dominant world power.
    - thriftwy 5y ago
      - pdabbadabba 5y ago
        As someone who has never been to Ukraine or Russia, I genuinely don't know: what has Ukraine actually done to repress its Russian minority? I've read that 1) Russian is not an official language in Ukraine, 2) there have been some efforts made to promote the speaking and teaching of Ukrainian (though Russian remains widely spoken) and 3) a Ukrainian bill recognizing Ukraine's "indigenous peoples" did not cover Russians. That strikes me as...almost nothing. What am I missing?
        EB-Barrington 5y ago
        My home is Kyiv. I've been in Kyiv the entire war. It's rare to ever hear a conversation in Ukrainian in Kyiv, most people speak Russian. Even though lately some people I know have tried to "switch" to Ukrainian (most people are bi-lingual), they have all switched back to Russian pretty fast. Ukrainian is strongly promoted, and legislated in many situations. But, I think you have summed it up nicely with "almost nothing". I've never seen any repression of the "Russian minority", prior to this war. This is just anecdotal of course. Many Ukrainians have either Russian friends, or extended family, or heritage. However, now, I assume Russians will be persecuted in Ukraine pretty much forevermore. BTW, I'm not Ukrainian or Russian, I just live in Ukraine.
        thriftwy 5y ago
        pdabbadabba 5y ago
        What does “closing of Russian schools” mean? What is a Russian school? A school that teaches the Russian language? And why are they closing? Were they banned by the government, or are they closing for some other reason? The explanation given here [1] is that Ukraine is only changing the language used for instruction to Ukrainian, nationwide, not prohibiting the teaching of Russian. You shouldn’t believe everything that you read on the internet of course, but this strikes me as far more plausible. [1] https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/in-ukraine-schools-will-be-closed-in-large-numbers# https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/in-ukraine-schools-will-be-clo...

AFAIK, most kurds feel excited to be part of Turkey.

by m00dy 5y ago

AFAIK, most kurds feel excited to be part of Turkey.

Maybe we met different Kurds. I met a lot in Iraq and Syria and most of the ones I met balked at even having to speak Turkish (even if they could speak fluently), let alone be part of the country. I imagine some of the ones I met were blown apart by Turkish forces some time after I left Rojava.

m00dy 5y ago
I'm a white Turk, 1,87cm in height, with green eyes, and I am socially accepted even in the nordic Europe peninsula. Guess what? My sister is getting married to a Kurdish guy, and I will be visiting the Kurdish-dominated part of Turkey this summer for the wedding. I will be able to tell you whether Kurds are bad or good firsthand, and also, I can't wait to load up a bunch of AK-47s and hand generates and shoot them over the sky during the wedding ceremony. xD

bitcharmer 5y ago

This statement is on the same level of nonsense as saying the Ukrainians are thrilled to host their Russian neighbours presently.

thriftwy 5y ago
But the other way around, since russians are Ukraine's kurds. The number 2 ethnicity that nobody ever talked about.
- pdabbadabba 5y ago
  That comparison might make some sense if Kurdistan were a enormous global power and shared a huge land border with Turkey. When in fact, Kurdistan [checks atlas] does not exist at all as an independent country, much less a dominant world power.
  - thriftwy 5y ago
    - pdabbadabba 5y ago
      As someone who has never been to Ukraine or Russia, I genuinely don't know: what has Ukraine actually done to repress its Russian minority? I've read that 1) Russian is not an official language in Ukraine, 2) there have been some efforts made to promote the speaking and teaching of Ukrainian (though Russian remains widely spoken) and 3) a Ukrainian bill recognizing Ukraine's "indigenous peoples" did not cover Russians. That strikes me as...almost nothing. What am I missing?
      - EB-Barrington 5y ago
        My home is Kyiv. I've been in Kyiv the entire war. It's rare to ever hear a conversation in Ukrainian in Kyiv, most people speak Russian. Even though lately some people I know have tried to "switch" to Ukrainian (most people are bi-lingual), they have all switched back to Russian pretty fast. Ukrainian is strongly promoted, and legislated in many situations. But, I think you have summed it up nicely with "almost nothing". I've never seen any repression of the "Russian minority", prior to this war. This is just anecdotal of course. Many Ukrainians have either Russian friends, or extended family, or heritage. However, now, I assume Russians will be persecuted in Ukraine pretty much forevermore. BTW, I'm not Ukrainian or Russian, I just live in Ukraine.
      - thriftwy 5y ago
        pdabbadabba 5y ago
        What does “closing of Russian schools” mean? What is a Russian school? A school that teaches the Russian language? And why are they closing? Were they banned by the government, or are they closing for some other reason? The explanation given here [1] is that Ukraine is only changing the language used for instruction to Ukrainian, nationwide, not prohibiting the teaching of Russian. You shouldn’t believe everything that you read on the internet of course, but this strikes me as far more plausible. [1] https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/in-ukraine-schools-will-be-closed-in-large-numbers# https://euvsdisinfo.eu/report/in-ukraine-schools-will-be-clo...