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> What we need is a way to inhibit lying. 1. Society already does this; most morality systems discourage lying (with exceptions of course). 2. Could your lobo
by mLuby 4y ago
> What we need is a way to inhibit lying.
1. Society already does this; most morality systems discourage lying (with exceptions of course).
2. Could your lobotomized person understand lying? If not, they won't be effective at governing the rest of us lairs. If so, the "lair/truth-teller" logic puzzle applies: they could truthfully report what a liar would say, thereby truthfully lying.
> They will be given a mark. A forehead-tattoo
Does sarcasm count as lying? Does fiction?
- swayvil 4y agoPlease, the #1 industries, advertising and politics, depend on lying. Some say that the intellect was evolved specifically for lying. The program would have to address the root of the behavior we're filtering for, of course. intent to maliciously deceive or somesuch. I recall one scifi where they had a priesthoodesque dealy called "witnesses". Similar idea. Trained for perfect recall and honesty. Wore robes.
- mLuby 4y agoThe lying part is secondary—no maliciousness is the important part. Maybe what you really want is a “Good” ruler; philosophy and ethics have been wrestling with how to define that for thousands of years. I’d be shocked if such a ruler would have no need to lie, unless they have no internal or external threats (so an all-encompassing autocracy, perhaps like the God Emperor of Dune). Speaking of sci-fi, the Culture novels’ hyper-intelligent AI “Minds” are, AFAIK, “good” rulers with external threats, though I don’t recall the Minds being limited by honesty. Were you recalling the Fair Witnesses from Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land? (Overly Sarcastic synopsis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jAkplrZci0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jAkplrZci0) Those industries aren’t even top 10: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-biggest-industries-world-2021-150703784.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/10-biggest-industries-world-2...