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Sorry, nope. Not in this context; the context of a professor-student relationship where the professor is obligated to treat students with basic respect.
by Bud 5y ago
Sorry, nope. Not in this context; the context of a professor-student relationship where the professor is obligated to treat students with basic respect.
- anm89 5y agoI must have missed the, "this doesn't count for public employees if they are a professor, then their constitutional requirement is to be nice" clause in the first amendment. Could you point that piece out to me?
- zug_zug 5y agoSo if I’m teaching your daughter can I call her sir and be rude as I please to her with no possible recourse?
- anm89 5y agoIf they are a tenured Professor at a public university, 100% , unequivocally, no exceptions, yes. The people who want to kill free speech in order to avoid some minor discomfort see these arguments as some kind of trump card. "Do you really want free speech even when it's you that someone is saying something mean to?" Yes I do. I'm a Jew and I support the right to hold Klan rallies and Nazi marches. I support throwing them in prison if they threaten assault or assault anybody but I support their right to say anything they want up to that point. I support free speech. Specifically in the cases when it's someone else saying something I don't like because that is literally what free speech means.
- dgaaaaaaaaaa 5y agoWhat if your boss had a Nazi flag pin on at work?
- anm89 5y agoMy boss isn't a federal employee. This doesn't apply to him. I'd quit and find a new job.
- zug_zug 5y ago>> If they are a tenured Professor at a public university, 100% , unequivocally, no exceptions, yes. "100%, unequivocally,y No exceptions?" You literally just cited an exception -- a threat (a type of speech). So we all draw a line somewhere, including you. Though we all here know you're kidding yourself and if somebody you love was distraught over being verbally abused by a professor for no apparent reason you'd want the situation changed.
- anm89 5y agoThanks for letting me know what I believe. I support your right to insult me even though you are dead wrong.
- anm89 4y agoAlso I'm rereading this. Your question was regarding calling my daughter something. And that is what I'm responding "unequivocally, no exceptions, yes" I wouldn't argue that free speech has no exceptions. It clearly does. I went out of my way to point out the exceptions in my own post. I'm 100% for extreme free speech except in cases of direct threats of physical violence.
- dgaaaaaaaaaa 5y agoThe same reason most of us can't address customers and colleagues as idiots. Employers fire employees who speak offensively even outside of work. Free speech doesn't mean speech without consequences.
- VWWHFSfQ 5y agoThe government can't punish people for exercising their free speech rights. That's exactly what the court ruled, and exactly why he got this big payday. The "consequences" you're referring to might be social ostracization or something like that.
- dgaaaaaaaaaa 4y agoMust be the first time courts have made the wrong decision then
- DiggyJohnson 5y ago> basic respect What if a person disagrees that requesting pronouns from a gender other than their birth sex is not basic respect? You’re worldview leaves us powerless to address these tough questions.