This is exactly right. I don’t think it’ll happen within k8s because if you’ve ever worked with sig-api you’ll know they aren’t big on innovation. The biggest

This is exactly right. I don’t think it’ll happen within k8s because if you’ve ever worked with sig-api you’ll know they aren’t big on innovation. The biggest problem with kube is the declarative interfaces aren’t enough for most problems. You need imperative methods as well and the only way to sort of do this is with aggregated API servers (yuck!) Even the core Pod resource even has a /logs endpoint which is imperative. Also kubectl is a mess, verb->noun makes no sense at all.