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> I mean, it's already kind of stupid to want to avoid something the whole industry uses, from big tech to startups Windows still owns the market to a substant

> I mean, it's already kind of stupid to want to avoid something the whole industry uses, from big tech to startups Windows still owns the market to a substantial degree, Macos is still a niche OS. Maybe you've seen a trend of software companies moving to Macos, but it's definitely not the standard by any means.

rileyphone 5y ago
That's not entirely true these days, Mac market share has gone up from 5% to ~15% in the last 10 years while Windows sits on its hands. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202203 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide...
- thawaya3113 5y ago
  Which still means that more than 5 out of 6 computers are not Macs. Which is as diametrically opposite of the industry standard as you can get.
- bluefirebrand 5y ago
  I'm not sure how you can look at Windows: 75% MacOs: 15% and then try and dispute what I said. Those numbers aren't even close. Sure, maybe MacOs is growing, and less niche than it used to be. I'm not disputing that. But come on here.
mmis1000 5y ago
Mac is probably a good dev machine. But for production and service…? I don't think so. It is currently the most unstable system I ever met. I need to reboot it due to completely un-addressable memory leak and lag (the cpu is idle, the memory isn't starved, disk don't really have much io and it still lags) from time to time if I keep it on for a long time.
cruano 5y ago
Have you ever been to a FAANG office ? Or anything in San Francisco for that matter, in my time in PayPal only one dude in the whole office had a windows machine
- bluefirebrand 5y ago
  Have you ever been to an office outside of the FAANG / Silicon Valley Startup Bubble? You won't see a Mac almost anywhere. The numbers don't lie. Windows is more widely used than MacOS right now, period. And it's not even close. Maybe that is starting to change, maybe we're in for another round of companies going "This is what they do at Google" and playing follow the leader. Maybe. But that's not the conversation we're having. If you want to have that conversation, make those points. Not this "but it's what FAANG uses" appeal to authority nonsense.

rileyphone 5y ago

That's not entirely true these days, Mac market share has gone up from 5% to ~15% in the last 10 years while Windows sits on its hands. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide/#monthly-200901-202203 https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide...

thawaya3113 5y ago
Which still means that more than 5 out of 6 computers are not Macs. Which is as diametrically opposite of the industry standard as you can get.
bluefirebrand 5y ago
I'm not sure how you can look at Windows: 75% MacOs: 15% and then try and dispute what I said. Those numbers aren't even close. Sure, maybe MacOs is growing, and less niche than it used to be. I'm not disputing that. But come on here.

mmis1000 5y ago

Mac is probably a good dev machine. But for production and service…? I don't think so. It is currently the most unstable system I ever met. I need to reboot it due to completely un-addressable memory leak and lag (the cpu is idle, the memory isn't starved, disk don't really have much io and it still lags) from time to time if I keep it on for a long time.

cruano 5y ago

Have you ever been to a FAANG office ? Or anything in San Francisco for that matter, in my time in PayPal only one dude in the whole office had a windows machine

bluefirebrand 5y ago
Have you ever been to an office outside of the FAANG / Silicon Valley Startup Bubble? You won't see a Mac almost anywhere. The numbers don't lie. Windows is more widely used than MacOS right now, period. And it's not even close. Maybe that is starting to change, maybe we're in for another round of companies going "This is what they do at Google" and playing follow the leader. Maybe. But that's not the conversation we're having. If you want to have that conversation, make those points. Not this "but it's what FAANG uses" appeal to authority nonsense.