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Would definitely not agree to it, but at least it's not as bad as what's going on in your average iPhone or Android. Someone said "put Sony executives in jail

Would definitely not agree to it, but at least it's not as bad as what's going on in your average iPhone or Android. Someone said "put Sony executives in jail for this", but for each of those executives we would have to jail a dozen executives from Microsoft, Apple, Google, Dell, HP, Intel, AMD, and more.

routerl 5y ago
Yeah, that's the point.
xbar 5y ago
You are right. It begs for a persistent, searchable list of such known violations along with the publicly traded entity name (e.g. Sony) and list of division heads (e.g.Shunsuke Muramatsu) that may have held relevant executive positions at the time.
lexicality 5y ago
Personally I feel like the power and money you get from being an executive should be counterbalanced by taking legal liability for crimes committed by the company under your watch. Yes we'd need to put a lot of people in jail if we did this, but it'd discourage future crimes I feel.
boomboomsubban 5y ago
Sony's two mistakes were installing a rootkit if the EULA was refused and not mentioning some of the software in the EULA. Modern devices often invade more of your privacy, but they aren't doing it criminally.
bregma 5y ago
Like banks being too big to fail, these execs are too privileged to jail.
mewse-hn 5y ago
Today's equivalent would be if sony silently rooted your phone so their software could monitor and disable unauthorized music playing on your device, still very very wrong
robonerd 5y ago
We'd have to imprison dozens? The US has millions of people in prison, a few dozen would be no problem at all.
mschuster91 5y ago
> Someone said "put Sony executives in jail for this", but for each of those executives we would have to jail a dozen executives from Microsoft, Apple, Google, Dell, HP, Intel, AMD, and more. How about we actually start to hold executives accountable and put them into jail when they fuck up? Executives get seven, sometimes eight figures a year in compensation, but face virtually no risk - even if they do fuck up, they get golden parachute packages. Part of why especially the Android ecosystem is rampant in malicious advertising, tracking, malware, fake advertising, fraud and other issues is because no one gives a shit to hold bad actors accountable. Just look at the current "Evony: The King's Return" advertising campaign - everywhere on my phone from Twitter to Youtube I almost exclusively get their ads despite there having been media coverage of their ads being fake [1] two goddamn years ago. Youtube, Twitter, Google - no one cares about blatant spam and fraud for years. This shit has got to stop, and preferably sooner than later! [1] https://www.thegamer.com/someone-made-the-mobile-game-from-those-fake-ads/ https://www.thegamer.com/someone-made-the-mobile-game-from-t...

routerl 5y ago

Yeah, that's the point.

xbar 5y ago

You are right. It begs for a persistent, searchable list of such known violations along with the publicly traded entity name (e.g. Sony) and list of division heads (e.g.Shunsuke Muramatsu) that may have held relevant executive positions at the time.

lexicality 5y ago

Personally I feel like the power and money you get from being an executive should be counterbalanced by taking legal liability for crimes committed by the company under your watch. Yes we'd need to put a lot of people in jail if we did this, but it'd discourage future crimes I feel.

boomboomsubban 5y ago

Sony's two mistakes were installing a rootkit if the EULA was refused and not mentioning some of the software in the EULA. Modern devices often invade more of your privacy, but they aren't doing it criminally.

bregma 5y ago

Like banks being too big to fail, these execs are too privileged to jail.

mewse-hn 5y ago

Today's equivalent would be if sony silently rooted your phone so their software could monitor and disable unauthorized music playing on your device, still very very wrong

robonerd 5y ago

We'd have to imprison dozens? The US has millions of people in prison, a few dozen would be no problem at all.

mschuster91 5y ago

> Someone said "put Sony executives in jail for this", but for each of those executives we would have to jail a dozen executives from Microsoft, Apple, Google, Dell, HP, Intel, AMD, and more. How about we actually start to hold executives accountable and put them into jail when they fuck up? Executives get seven, sometimes eight figures a year in compensation, but face virtually no risk - even if they do fuck up, they get golden parachute packages. Part of why especially the Android ecosystem is rampant in malicious advertising, tracking, malware, fake advertising, fraud and other issues is because no one gives a shit to hold bad actors accountable. Just look at the current "Evony: The King's Return" advertising campaign - everywhere on my phone from Twitter to Youtube I almost exclusively get their ads despite there having been media coverage of their ads being fake [1] two goddamn years ago. Youtube, Twitter, Google - no one cares about blatant spam and fraud for years. This shit has got to stop, and preferably sooner than later! [1] https://www.thegamer.com/someone-made-the-mobile-game-from-those-fake-ads/ https://www.thegamer.com/someone-made-the-mobile-game-from-t...