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Not to hurt your feelings but the fact you find it tiresome won't change anything, people aren't going to wake up one day and just decide its not a funny name.

Not to hurt your feelings but the fact you find it tiresome won't change anything, people aren't going to wake up one day and just decide its not a funny name. We're not going to start to teach children classes on why it's wrong to laugh at the name Uranus. I was just being practical when I said what I said. It's not a great name.

mdp2021 5y ago
> It's not a great name The Greek name for the sky would not be a great name?! This really passes every limit. There is absolutely no reasonable entitlement to measure a term through what the term is not. It is a perfectly complete term which you are mishandling and misunderstanding: it is your issue. > We're not going to start to teach children classes We do: with basic education. It gives among the rest the basic idea not to read 'sabotage' in Korean when it is French.
- bamboozled 5y ago
  Actually just think it can be a bit of fun in some contexts, lighten up a bit?
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  How many people speak Greek these days? A lot more people hear "your butthole" than "the sky" when they hear that name. Besides the 'coolness' of associating with the ancient Greeks, the naming does not have much to do with today's world. Not that I advocate changing it but the choice of language seems pretty arbitrary too.
  - bawolff 5y ago
    Speak greek: very few. Know the basics of greek mythology: basically anyone even remotely well educated.
  - mdp2021 5y ago
    > How many people speak Greek these days At least a couple of billions, when they have 'tachycardia', 'hydraulic', 'geosynchronous', 'Uranus' in their vocabulary. > A lot more people hear Well, they are missing a module, aren't they? > coolness The label you choose for "knowing your language" is "cool"? Some would say, "duly". > today's world What entitlements has that "world" you are mentioning? > the choice of language Unclear. If that is arguing against the choice of the ancients, entitlement for judgement remains appropriate. But sure, if you want to call it "S7" in your papers, it will probably work and nobody will stop you. Of course, others will call it as they deem appropriate - oftentimes with reason.
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      I understand the words are still used a lot but it feels very artificial. The old Romans and Greeks seem to be adored by academia, especially the arts side. I used to do very well at school and they put me in a latin class to prepare me for 'academic greatness'. But I hated it, I just don't want to be learning about a stuffy language that was invented millennia ago. Luckily I was able to drop out a year later and focus on the sciences which I loved. I never needed it at university obviously (for computer science English offers much greater benefits) I know these languages and cultures have had a great influence on our society and languages now but they were also really primitive people socially (blood games etc). I don't have much respect for them nor for my own middle-ages ancestors. I just wanted to learn about now and the future and don't care how we got there. The classes felt really stuffy to me. And much more tangential than regular history classes. The same thing with Medicine: Doctors were basically clueless only 200 years ago. Almost all progress we have made in medicine was long after the ancients were long dead. There is no real need to use latin for medicine. It's just the language they use 'because it is'. Anyway because of this unwanted expedition at school I have more hostile to the ancient languages :) I'm aware my opinion is very polarised. For what it's worth I have the same with Dutch literature, after I was forced to read 25 'classic' literature pieces for my exam I vowed never to read any Dutch literature again and I never have. I found their works horrible, pompous and contrived. I consider the literature community there basically one big circlejerk of losers. Which is fine by me, they just shouldn't have forced it on me.
bawolff 5y ago
Most people stop making but jokes at some point in their life. Anyhow, its tiresome because it is low effort humour that has been done to death.

mdp2021 5y ago

> It's not a great name The Greek name for the sky would not be a great name?! This really passes every limit. There is absolutely no reasonable entitlement to measure a term through what the term is not. It is a perfectly complete term which you are mishandling and misunderstanding: it is your issue. > We're not going to start to teach children classes We do: with basic education. It gives among the rest the basic idea not to read 'sabotage' in Korean when it is French.

bamboozled 5y ago
Actually just think it can be a bit of fun in some contexts, lighten up a bit?
GekkePrutser 5y ago
How many people speak Greek these days? A lot more people hear "your butthole" than "the sky" when they hear that name. Besides the 'coolness' of associating with the ancient Greeks, the naming does not have much to do with today's world. Not that I advocate changing it but the choice of language seems pretty arbitrary too.
- bawolff 5y ago
  Speak greek: very few. Know the basics of greek mythology: basically anyone even remotely well educated.
- mdp2021 5y ago
  > How many people speak Greek these days At least a couple of billions, when they have 'tachycardia', 'hydraulic', 'geosynchronous', 'Uranus' in their vocabulary. > A lot more people hear Well, they are missing a module, aren't they? > coolness The label you choose for "knowing your language" is "cool"? Some would say, "duly". > today's world What entitlements has that "world" you are mentioning? > the choice of language Unclear. If that is arguing against the choice of the ancients, entitlement for judgement remains appropriate. But sure, if you want to call it "S7" in your papers, it will probably work and nobody will stop you. Of course, others will call it as they deem appropriate - oftentimes with reason.
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    I understand the words are still used a lot but it feels very artificial. The old Romans and Greeks seem to be adored by academia, especially the arts side. I used to do very well at school and they put me in a latin class to prepare me for 'academic greatness'. But I hated it, I just don't want to be learning about a stuffy language that was invented millennia ago. Luckily I was able to drop out a year later and focus on the sciences which I loved. I never needed it at university obviously (for computer science English offers much greater benefits) I know these languages and cultures have had a great influence on our society and languages now but they were also really primitive people socially (blood games etc). I don't have much respect for them nor for my own middle-ages ancestors. I just wanted to learn about now and the future and don't care how we got there. The classes felt really stuffy to me. And much more tangential than regular history classes. The same thing with Medicine: Doctors were basically clueless only 200 years ago. Almost all progress we have made in medicine was long after the ancients were long dead. There is no real need to use latin for medicine. It's just the language they use 'because it is'. Anyway because of this unwanted expedition at school I have more hostile to the ancient languages :) I'm aware my opinion is very polarised. For what it's worth I have the same with Dutch literature, after I was forced to read 25 'classic' literature pieces for my exam I vowed never to read any Dutch literature again and I never have. I found their works horrible, pompous and contrived. I consider the literature community there basically one big circlejerk of losers. Which is fine by me, they just shouldn't have forced it on me.

bawolff 5y ago

Most people stop making but jokes at some point in their life. Anyhow, its tiresome because it is low effort humour that has been done to death.