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Depends on the people you hang with. I'm currently at devconnect in Amsterdam and it's full of people who care about tech. Really nice a crowd and even a bit

by k__ 5y ago

Depends on the people you hang with. I'm currently at devconnect in Amsterdam and it's full of people who care about tech. Really nice a crowd and even a bit more diverse than the rest of IT.

lekevicius 5y ago
I had a fantastic experience at DevCon V. Ethereum developer conferences attract all the technical folks and almost none of "money" people. I haven't gone to any Bitcoin conference, but I can't see it being the same. Bitcoin's aversion to change means mostly demagogues are left, and all the talk is money talk.
- mattwilsonn888 5y ago
  > Bitcoin's aversion to change means mostly demagogues are left, and all the talk is money talk. That's true, but you say it as if that's a bad thing. Bitcoin is valuable because it does not change, its proven to work, and people know that. If the downside is that there isn't as much to talk about at a conference, then I don't give a shit.
  - thinkmassive 5y ago
    You’re right that Bitcoin is still the most valuable because it’s resistant to frivolous changes, however there’s far more development happening in the space today than ever before! Here’s links to 3 full days of talks from the Open Source Stage at the Bitcoin 2022 conference: https://twitter.com/ODELL/status/1513487641538269188 https://twitter.com/ODELL/status/1513487641538269188 Each YouTube video is about 5 hours long and broken into chapters per talk.
    - k__ 5y ago
      Aren't like all major tokens following BTC? If BTC fell, ETH fell too.
      - thinkmassive 5y ago
        Yes, and Bitcoin has maintained its 41% dominance over the past 4 years despite the number of altcoins increasing by 10x over that period.
- once_inc 5y ago
  Bitcoin isn't averse to change, it's averse to changes that impede on its core attributes: decentalized, permissionless, global, censorship-resistance. Increasing the block size as a patch to keep fees down infringes on the core attributes, because you increase the minimum requirements for running a node. There's a lot of innovation happening in and on Bitcoin. RSK for smart contracts, BetterHash for mining pool decentralization, the Lightning Network or Liquid Network as examples of layered scaling. Bitcoin's dev meetups are great examples of the helpful, thoughtful, enterprising and conscientious community that exists, without the overly loud, overly shallow speculators.
boardwaalk 5y ago
Unfortunately at the the surface, it’s all cranks. The people you see trending on Twitter and such almost seem like an alien species. And then there’s all the advertising for exchanges and such being blatant “get in at the bottom of the pyramid scheme” nonsense. I was also “into” crypto roughly early, never found a community (nor should I have to), that’s all I see, and that’s all I therefore assume exists.
- k__ 5y ago
  Yes, totally get it. I found my crowd, but many people don't.

by k__ 5y ago

Depends on the people you hang with. I'm currently at devconnect in Amsterdam and it's full of people who care about tech. Really nice a crowd and even a bit more diverse than the rest of IT.

lekevicius 5y ago

I had a fantastic experience at DevCon V. Ethereum developer conferences attract all the technical folks and almost none of "money" people. I haven't gone to any Bitcoin conference, but I can't see it being the same. Bitcoin's aversion to change means mostly demagogues are left, and all the talk is money talk.

mattwilsonn888 5y ago
> Bitcoin's aversion to change means mostly demagogues are left, and all the talk is money talk. That's true, but you say it as if that's a bad thing. Bitcoin is valuable because it does not change, its proven to work, and people know that. If the downside is that there isn't as much to talk about at a conference, then I don't give a shit.
- thinkmassive 5y ago
  You’re right that Bitcoin is still the most valuable because it’s resistant to frivolous changes, however there’s far more development happening in the space today than ever before! Here’s links to 3 full days of talks from the Open Source Stage at the Bitcoin 2022 conference: https://twitter.com/ODELL/status/1513487641538269188 https://twitter.com/ODELL/status/1513487641538269188 Each YouTube video is about 5 hours long and broken into chapters per talk.
  - k__ 5y ago
    Aren't like all major tokens following BTC? If BTC fell, ETH fell too.
    - thinkmassive 5y ago
      Yes, and Bitcoin has maintained its 41% dominance over the past 4 years despite the number of altcoins increasing by 10x over that period.
once_inc 5y ago
Bitcoin isn't averse to change, it's averse to changes that impede on its core attributes: decentalized, permissionless, global, censorship-resistance. Increasing the block size as a patch to keep fees down infringes on the core attributes, because you increase the minimum requirements for running a node. There's a lot of innovation happening in and on Bitcoin. RSK for smart contracts, BetterHash for mining pool decentralization, the Lightning Network or Liquid Network as examples of layered scaling. Bitcoin's dev meetups are great examples of the helpful, thoughtful, enterprising and conscientious community that exists, without the overly loud, overly shallow speculators.

boardwaalk 5y ago

Unfortunately at the the surface, it’s all cranks. The people you see trending on Twitter and such almost seem like an alien species. And then there’s all the advertising for exchanges and such being blatant “get in at the bottom of the pyramid scheme” nonsense. I was also “into” crypto roughly early, never found a community (nor should I have to), that’s all I see, and that’s all I therefore assume exists.

k__ 5y ago
Yes, totally get it. I found my crowd, but many people don't.