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>Gone are the times when what was needed was raw work force = muscles. Not at all. Modern economies require huge amounts of people to do service jobs, and man

>Gone are the times when what was needed was raw work force = muscles. Not at all. Modern economies require huge amounts of people to do service jobs, and many b of these do not require advanced degrees. Here in Melbourne (not Europe, but we have a fairly sizeable African refugee population) you see plenty of black people working in aged/disability care, security and driving jobs.

inglor_cz 5y ago
Of those jobs you named, aged/disability care is the only sector that is going to grow, because of the demographic development. Unless medicine makes great strides in treating aging, more nurses and caretakers will be needed. Growth in security jobs is possible, though it spells a bad omen: if more security is needed per capita, there is something going wrong with law enforcement policies. Human driving jobs will disappear one day, much like horse drivers did. Even though autonomous driving is proving to be a harder nut to crack than people expected, by 2050 it will be solved. In the meantime, Africa will add about a billion people. They must be educated, there simply isn't enough muscle jobs for them in the developed world.
- burntoutfire 5y ago
  > Even though autonomous driving is proving to be a harder nut to crack than people expected, by 2050 it will be solved. In 1960s, top researchers believed that scene understanding (one of the hardest computer vision problems) will be solved by an undergrad during summer internship. I feel that this prediction that we'll for sure autonomous driving in a couple decades is an example of similar hubris.
  - inglor_cz 5y ago
    There is steady improvement in the field and roads can be adapted over time, too (special beacons etc.) I feel that the main hurdle to clear will eventually be human psyche. We have grown accustomed to the non-zero chance of a fellow human crashing into us, but being flattened by a robot gone wild is deeply repulsive, even if the actual rate of accidents sinks way under the current norm.
- AussieWog93 5y ago
  >Growth in security jobs is possible, though it spells a bad omen: if more security is needed per capita, there is something going wrong with law enforcement policies. Possibly a cultural difference; "security" here basically means nightclub bouncers and the occasional guy at the supermarket/chemist.

inglor_cz 5y ago

Of those jobs you named, aged/disability care is the only sector that is going to grow, because of the demographic development. Unless medicine makes great strides in treating aging, more nurses and caretakers will be needed. Growth in security jobs is possible, though it spells a bad omen: if more security is needed per capita, there is something going wrong with law enforcement policies. Human driving jobs will disappear one day, much like horse drivers did. Even though autonomous driving is proving to be a harder nut to crack than people expected, by 2050 it will be solved. In the meantime, Africa will add about a billion people. They must be educated, there simply isn't enough muscle jobs for them in the developed world.

burntoutfire 5y ago
> Even though autonomous driving is proving to be a harder nut to crack than people expected, by 2050 it will be solved. In 1960s, top researchers believed that scene understanding (one of the hardest computer vision problems) will be solved by an undergrad during summer internship. I feel that this prediction that we'll for sure autonomous driving in a couple decades is an example of similar hubris.
- inglor_cz 5y ago
  There is steady improvement in the field and roads can be adapted over time, too (special beacons etc.) I feel that the main hurdle to clear will eventually be human psyche. We have grown accustomed to the non-zero chance of a fellow human crashing into us, but being flattened by a robot gone wild is deeply repulsive, even if the actual rate of accidents sinks way under the current norm.
AussieWog93 5y ago
>Growth in security jobs is possible, though it spells a bad omen: if more security is needed per capita, there is something going wrong with law enforcement policies. Possibly a cultural difference; "security" here basically means nightclub bouncers and the occasional guy at the supermarket/chemist.